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01-08-2023, 07:25 AM

#19771

Stgh93

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Joined APC: Feb 2022

Position: A320 FO / Processing Greencard

Posts: 7

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Originally Posted by Roverruckus

With the article 33 bonanza about to wrap up and being a junior First officer I would say expect 64-80 hours a month without picking up and open time. With some seniority there are some 90-100 hour lines without article 33 but it would take a little while to hold those. That being said you would be hard pressed to find another American carrier that would make living in South Korea as easy as Atlas.

thanks for the info!

Is there any open time trips that starts by deadhead to ICN? If so how much seniority do I need to bid those trips

01-08-2023, 09:17 AM

#19772

CRJJ

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Joined APC: Jun 2019

Position: B747 FO

Posts: 1,110

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Originally Posted by Stgh93

thanks for the info!

Is there any open time trips that starts by deadhead to ICN? If so how much seniority do I need to bid those trips

Don't make decisions based on how lines are built, because they change on a monthly basis.

01-08-2023, 01:13 PM

#19773

Pahlot

Line Holder

Joined APC: May 2022

Posts: 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stgh93

thanks for the info!

Is there any open time trips that starts by deadhead to ICN? If so how much seniority do I need to bid those trips

If your happiness depends on getting trips that start and/or end in ICN and getting 100+ hours then I'd suggest don't come to Atlas. Even if you bid and are awarded a line that starts and ends in ICN there is every chance that that will not be the case once your trip starts, especially on the 74. All you're guaranteed is that if your trips change is that you will get paid a minimum of what the line you bid for had assigned to it should you fly less hours, plus the pattern of on/off days in that awarded line, everything else is fair game for the company.

01-08-2023, 03:14 PM

#19774

C17B74

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Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX

Posts: 1,504

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Originally Posted by Elevation

Cool. Thanks. I looked up gopher head on urban dictionary and came up with something completely different.

Oh Lord my apologies. Thank you CincClarence for defining the moment(not movement) to clear up my errant irresponsible thought.

01-08-2023, 03:20 PM

#19775

C17B74

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Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX

Posts: 1,504

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stgh93

thanks for the info!

Is there any open time trips that starts by deadhead to ICN? If so how much seniority do I need to bid those trips

Maybe consider “out-basing” if/when you can nab it. Granted, I have heard of folks doing an out base and never really returning to it. ICN folks ending up in Europe predominantly and HHN folks hanging out in Asia for most of the duration, but the hours you want could be met or even more. As said before, we are wet concrete.

01-08-2023, 04:44 PM

#19776

Elevation

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Joined APC: Jul 2017

Posts: 1,349

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Originally Posted by C17B74

Oh Lord my apologies. Thank you CincClarence for defining the moment(not movement) to clear up my errant irresponsible thought.

It was kind of funny. I was trying to work it into conversation for a while.

01-08-2023, 06:24 PM

#19777

Lionhaart

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Joined APC: Dec 2019

Posts: 105

Bid the 76 and do our dhl runs in Asia. Start and end in South Korea

01-08-2023, 10:54 PM

#19778

Elevation

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Originally Posted by Lionhaart

Bid the 76 and do our dhl runs in Asia. Start and end in South Korea

That would be a pretty nice option, but it's a single run that he has to be senior enough to hold. Also we need to keep the route as it is today, not return it to the way it was a couple years ago. Also we need to keep the route. Still, if all this holds together it'd be a pretty nice deal.

01-09-2023, 02:48 AM

#19779

atpcliff

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Joined APC: Mar 2007

Position: Capt

Posts: 3,215

Just flew with an FO, who sat home (in South Asia) for 3 months. He went noncurrent on his Takeoffs/Landings. The company knew he was noncurrent, and sitting at home. He talked to our 747 training scheduler a number of times, during the 3 months. She told him, that there was no sim availablity. After about 3 months at home, they finally scheduled his training, flew him into MIA, and go him back on line. He made min pay (64 hrs), during his time at home.

01-11-2023, 01:12 AM

#19780

Lionhaart

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Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elevation

Aye it would be. I dont think anyone can touch that Polar route as it involves flying into Japan. Then again I'm no crystal ball. If he could get it yes it would be a regular job right out of Korea.