Atlas Air Hiring
#542
#544
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 2
So what was the pilot group/union's opinion about being out for 17 days? Did they try to negotiate that number down or is it something the company is not willing to even address? Heard there are some new hires quitting during the first year because Atlas is leaving them out for a full 17 even if they've finished their rotation in 14. Even though there is no way for scheduling to use them, the pilots are not permitted to go home. Can anyone confirm this?
#545
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: Riding Shotgun 4 life
Posts: 60
So what was the pilot group/union's opinion about being out for 17 days? Did they try to negotiate that number down or is it something the company is not willing to even address? Heard there are some new hires quitting during the first year because Atlas is leaving them out for a full 17 even if they've finished their rotation in 14. Even though there is no way for scheduling to use them, the pilots are not permitted to go home. Can anyone confirm this?
I'm new here, but close to the source. I have only posted what I have heard directly from that source or the union. They came in last week to speak to my class (we tried to interrogate them thoroughly) and they had good things to say. Most of the stuff.f everyone here is talking about is TAd.
Confirmed:
Duty rig
Pay raise
Bid lines = less days out + company pays more for extending
New cities on gateway list
Don't lose gateway if bidding out of base
That's all. Keep y'all posted.
#546
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: Riding Shotgun 4 life
Posts: 60
Dunnno if I answered the question, I just wanted to add, if you (generic) can't handle the 17 days out, maybe Atlas isn't the right place for you. They make that VERY clear in the hiring process.
Happy holidays. T
Happy holidays. T
#547
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
Posts: 324
Bingo! ACMI is what it is and fluidity is a fact of life. That part is appealing to some (me included) but an anathema to others. If one is looking for a lot of structure in the schedule then this isn't the place to be. If you get a kick out of waking up and seeing where you might be headed the next day then you'll fit right in. Most seem to bid days off and whatever happens while you're on the road is just part of the adventure.
#548
#549
So what was the pilot group/union's opinion about being out for 17 days? Did they try to negotiate that number down or is it something the company is not willing to even address? Heard there are some new hires quitting during the first year because Atlas is leaving them out for a full 17 even if they've finished their rotation in 14. Even though there is no way for scheduling to use them, the pilots are not permitted to go home. Can anyone confirm this?
Atlas is not a carrier that goes by a schedule of flights per day, week, or month. The company flies schedules FOR other airlines and they determine where they want our airplanes to fly...these schedules are in a constant state of flux, sometimes several times a day, and the flight ops team tries to manage trip sequences for 500 of us. As does Southern, World, Evergreen, Kalitta, etc.
THEY OWN YOU FOR 17 DAYS...there is no such thing as a trip being 14 days long, and then you get to go home. Once you finish your 14-day sequence, you might get to go home, but you may also be flying till your 17th day is over, or you may be extended into days off, within the confines of the CBA.
I gave up two off days this year...TOTAL. It is not a normal thing to be extended, but it does happen. And people do volunteer some of their scheduled days off...
I have said it before, as have others...if you can only work a 4 day, with English-speaking ATC, radar coverage, and only two or three time zones...ATLAS IS NOT FOR YOU.
However, if you want an adventure, see the world, fly with great crews, and fly some great airplanes...give it a shot.
Sorry for the harsh tone...please don't send any nasty-grams. I'm not interested and not going to reply to them.
And no, I am not defensive about the QoL issues at Atlas...I just don't have any patience for people that take these jobs and claim that they didn't know what they were getting into...there is plenty of information here (APC) and other web forums (PPW, PPRUNE, etc).
Good luck...744driver
#550
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 233
Well said 744driver.....and I'm waiting for a call! I'm one of those individuals who had a career snatched out from under them by corporate greed, and hope to be lucky enough to find a second home to finish that career. Don't need the pax thing anymore...been there, done that, got the T shirt....just want job security in a firm that has for the most part, got it's head on reasonably straight for the last several years of my career. Atlas is high on my list!
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