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Old 12-26-2010, 12:33 PM
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adam_west...thanks for post, it is good to hear about it. how did you do transportation? hotel provided?
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Any rumors on whether trip length will be reduced with the new contract? Or will the company still keep guys out for 17 (extendable to 21)
There is to be a daily duty rig. 13 days of rig will put you at guarantee. Home Reserve is not paid a duty rig, so they may add HR and work you 13 days if they want to pay you the same as guarantee.

So what was the pilot group/union's opinion about being out for 17 days? Did they try to negotiate that number down or is it something the company is not willing to even address? Heard there are some new hires quitting during the first year because Atlas is leaving them out for a full 17 even if they've finished their rotation in 14. Even though there is no way for scheduling to use them, the pilots are not permitted to go home. Can anyone confirm this?
Of course, the above is possible. I am new so have not heard of it. Had a buddy who was sent home 2-4 days early several months in a row. They could not get him home on time, and didn't want to pay him all the extra money when he missed days off, so they airlined him home early.
My last two rotations I was released and airlined home 1 day early, as they were not going to use me on my last day on.

I think you meant to say "trip rig"?.
It is a daily duty rig. For each day you work (Home Reserve not included, from what I have heard), you get "X" (4.85???) hours of pay towards guarantee. Trip rig would be you are awarded a trip and are guaranteed so many hours of credit/pay for that whole trip. Atlas will not have a trip rig. You could bid for an 80 hour line, and have it reduced to 20 hours. But, in the new contract, you will get a guarantee for each day, which Atlas does not have now.

Don't need the pax thing anymore...
Atlas is adding PAX flying as quickly as practical.

Out of curiosity regarding the 17 day trips, are there any schedules built with a split, say maybe 10+7? Any word on whether the new TA will effect this? It doesn't bother me, but with kids that is a long time to be away sometimes. My idea schedule would be more like 14 on/14 off. Is Atlas filled with a bunch of bachelors or are there a lot of family guys/gals there as well?

Know anybody or anybody here at Atlas and still in the guard/reserve? How do the work around ML leave? I still have a commitment left and to be honest, if I have to do all my AF reserve stuff on my days off every month, that will not work. I can understand the companies side, but, a 17 day trip followed by 5-6 days at the base then 5 days off before starting all over again, every month, is not sustainable.
There are ALL types of schedules, including out-and-backs (MIA-MAO-MIA, for example). The PAX flying has the least number of days worked and the most days off.
Most of the Atlas guys have families, because they are mostly older. The new hires are now younger, but even then my new hire class had 1 or 2 single guys with no kids.
A number of Atlas guys are Guard/Reserve-sorry don't know how they work their schedules out...should be paying more attention, I guess.

online assessment, discussed V1 and abort/reject philosophy since I'd been working on developing SOPs for that (also a test question). I got a 74
That is the 2nd highest score I have heard of.

They don't require you bring logbooks.
A change as the 1st thing they asked us for was our logbooks.

You have to get to the interview (and groundschool) and pay for your hotel for the interview. They will pay for everything when you get to MIA to start training. I came in one night early to INDOC, and when I told them my schedule they changed my hotel res to move it up one day...I did not have to pay for that night in the hotel as I thought I would have.

Read as much as you can on Atlas, on all the forums, so that your decision to apply/interview/accept the job will be a better fit for you and Atlas.

Good luck, and God Bless!

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Old 12-27-2010, 06:45 AM
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Cliff,
It is indeed a TRIP rig. We will only get credit when away from our base, ie, TAFB. Duty rigs are only paid when you are on duty. Here is a VERY good explanation.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/r...070311214.html
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by reredwood View Post
adam_west...thanks for post, it is good to hear about it. how did you do transportation? hotel provided?
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The Airport Marriott is part of the Marriott campus which houses Res Inn, Courtyard, and maybe another hotel. They provide transpo to/from the airport but not to Atlas training center. I took a cab, it was $15 one-way. Courtyard shuttle will take you to the Atlas training center, though. I only stayed at the airport Marriott b/c I had a zillion Marriott points and didn't know what I was doing, otherwise I would have used Courtyard.

Also, there's a good Latin restaurant within walking distance, and a K-Mart about a 15-minute walk if you need something last-minute. Brush up on your Spanish!

Some other tidbits: Bring a letter of recommendation (not necessarily internal) and a cover letter to go along with your resume. This is just one guy's opinion here, but as far as guard hiring goes, they certainly help, and I got the impression they helped at Atlas also. HR gives you a red folder upon arrival to put all of your paperwork in, slip 'em in here; your interviewers don't take them. And don't forget to send a thank-you letter right after the interview.

I also found it strange they didn't ask for logbooks, but I'm sure they know what they're doing. The resume review was detailed, and I'm sure if applicants fudged the numbers they'd know. Not a recommended practice anywhere, anytime. Again, it seems as though this interview was not about who had the most time in the most complex equipment, or who could build a Rolls engine in their mind...it's more about personality and compatibility.

Here's a big thank you to everyone who has posted here, reading these forums really helps to understand the company and get some solid gouge!

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Old 12-27-2010, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Trip rig would be you are awarded a trip and are guaranteed so many hours of credit/pay for that whole trip. Atlas will not have a trip rig. You could bid for an 80 hour line, and have it reduced to 20 hours.
I have to disagree. This is an example of "Line protection". Your right, Atlas will never have line protection, but then again, I never thought we would have any kind of rigs, so time will tell.

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Old 12-27-2010, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam West View Post
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The Airport Marriott is part of the Marriott campus which houses Res Inn, Courtyard, and maybe another hotel. They provide transpo to/from the airport but not to Atlas training center. I took a cab, it was $15 one-way. Courtyard shuttle will take you to the Atlas training center, though. I only stayed at the airport Marriott b/c I had a zillion Marriott points and didn't know what I was doing, otherwise I would have used Courtyard.
There is a shuttle service to the training center, but the first one is at 07:20, too late for the interview group. If your timing is right, you will be able to catch the van back to the Marriott Campus afterwards. The van schedule is on the big screens to your right after you get out of the elevators.

Another advantage to staying at the Marriott Campus, this is where the Atlas crews stay. Head over to the Residence Inn around 6 PM and you'll find the current classes in the lobby eating free food. Might even run into someone you know. All sorts of good info there. The Courtyard bar will have a few active crews hanging around as well.

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Old 12-27-2010, 07:12 AM
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I had the phone interview, took the technical assessment (Nov) and have not received the "interview" call or the "letter" in the mail. Is there an applicant "limbo" that people can get stuck in? I am envious and happy for everyone that got interviewed and hopefully one day will get that opportunity.
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Old 12-27-2010, 09:58 AM
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ATPCliff....

I simply meant that I don't need the "glamor" of passenger flying, I don't have an ego that requires the sterotypical airline pilot image....
More than happy to fly whatever assignments Atlas would have for a new hire....
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Originally Posted by Whaledriver View Post
Cliff,
It is indeed a TRIP rig. We will only get credit when away from our base, ie, TAFB. Duty rigs are only paid when you are on duty. Here is a VERY good explanation.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/r...070311214.html
If it is indeed Time Away From Base vs Time Away From your Gateway Domicile it will be meaningless. The company will simply bring you in to your base to sit for free as they currently do. Do you know the specific verbiage of the Trip rig? Just saying.....
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If it is indeed Time Away From Base vs Time Away From your Gateway Domicile it will be meaningless. The company will simply bring you in to your base to sit for free as they currently do. Do you know the specific verbiage of the Trip rig? Just saying.....
Yep. That is exactly what they will do. They have a long history of manipulating the English language to make the contract say whatever they want it to.
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