This how you started the thread.

“I goofed the MV and then went on to fail my LOE (checkride). The training board decided to send me home for scheduling reasons l, then release me involuntary instead of asking or allowing a second checkride. O.k. great.”

No, you you didn’t “goof” anything, you FAILED MULTIPLE MAJOR training events at a 121 carrier. They removed you from the training location before termination of your employment for liability concerns. That’s standard procedure. They didn’t send you packing for “scheduling reasons”.

 

Yes, i wish editing past comments were possible here. If you read further in the post, I have clarified my origonal statement and my intentions of the post here sir.

By "goofed" my MV, it was very stupid. Pressing on a guard instead of lifting the guard, pressing the button and verifying that I the necessary items were happening after the proper execution of a "read and do" checklist was a pretty stupid goof on my part and a really stupid way to left myself fail an MV... I'm definitely not intending to down play that at all, I just realize how dumb that truly was.

I'm not under any illusions thst my termination wasn't justified or was separated for "scheduling" if that wasn't clear. I was indeed sent home due to scheduling issues, then was subsequently called Two weeks later after the board decision to terminate me for the two earlier failures. Is that more clear?

 

This thread is pretty difficult to read. You're intent on removing the words "poor conduct" but your words in this thread display a pretty bad attitude. You keep trying to deflect to scheduling issues ( theres no scheduling issue if the training review board needs to meet before you continue) or how you "never messed anything up" (yes you did. You failed 2 major gateways and reportable events). I don't think you are actually interested in growing from this event as much as you are clearing your name. It doesn't matter what the PRD says, it matters how you recover from the event. What it says does not change the fact that you failed to complete training due to poor performance. PRIA would show the itemized lessons and that will be clear, I'm not sure PRD will but I assume so. I really think you need to stop calling AOPA lawyers and misrepresenting the situation and spend a lot of time reflecting and soul searching. Seriously, who gives a damn what it says? Will that change your performance in the future if it doesn't say conduct? It literally has no impact on your future career unless you wanna make it one and keep digging this hole. Move on man.

A 2 second google showed this was probably selected from a drop down menu of choices. They can't change it.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/pilot_records_database&ved=2ahUKEwi9ktvo54_-AhVVVTABHUh2BR0QFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XdeHa-Ht2UtZ5gq4bE4He

Why terminated - professional disqualification and terminated - poor performance are separate whereas yours sounds combined as an either/ or I am unsure but like I said earlier, it really doesn't matter.

 

Codydenver, it’s pretty obvious you’re not going to find the support or answers on this open forum that you desire. I strongly recommend that if you want to pursue this, you need to find a good attorney that specializes in labor law. One with experience in aviation labor law would be even better. They will listen objectively to your whole story, then provide you your options.

Trying to do it via the internet will NOT accomplish anything.

 

Any recruiter will ask himself (not you), "why did this guy not resign in lieu of termination".
The coding (which they likely won't change, why would they) is not the main issue. It is that you let it go to termination instead of calling the CPO and saying hey, I'm done.

 

Cody Denver I think you are good.

 

not only are you good, but dont listen to a thing "Finessed" says. Just look at his post history. He is a very angry person who shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

If a Mesa pilots says “you’re good” you’re definitely good. 🥴🥴🥴🥴

 

Also interesting you created an account yesterday and posted on this thread immediately. Codydenver’s burner account?

 

So a recruiter for Newco will not look favorably upon you suing, or threatening to sue a previous employer. Who needs that hassle...

Playing Devil's advocate: No one cares about the wording, "poor performance/poor conduct". It means you screwed up and didn't meet standards. That. Is. All. You explain to Newco exactly what you did wrong and you failed as a result. This was 100% your fault. And you won't be making that mistake again. And you learned to just slow things down.

Relative to other new hires, you have the 121 training experience to succeed. OldCo already did the hard part. They brought you to the finish line. You've seen what its like, you know you can do it. You know the pace, study requirements and how to work in groups to succeed. You know what has to be dedicated to memory. And you now know your weaknesses and where to apply extra effort.

Apply to every Regional and be gratious to the one that takes you. Upgrade to Captain. Become a model employee and the rest will come, with time. You determine your success in life, not anyone else.

Now, on the other hand, if you're a jerk, ignore the above and just go sue those bastards. They probably don't know who they're messing with.