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Old 01-16-2022, 04:49 PM
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Any new hires getting TPA? I did the video interview yesterday. Trying to figure out how risky it would be trying to bet on being able to hold Tampa. I would be forfeiting United Aviate for it but, yes, I do hate commuting that much.
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Old 01-16-2022, 05:47 PM
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The majors will always have personality testing for one reason: Germanwings Flt 9525. Also some lesser events like the JetBlue PIC although that could have been something that developed well after he was hired. My previous company had a pilot who had a serious personality disorder. In lieu of firing him they let him use up his 3 years of medical leave then terminated him. Afterwards some Security Alerts Came out about him trying to access a flight line at various FBO's.

B737 vs. A320. I flew both back in the day at USAir. At NetJets I rode on both quite a bit when positioning. The A320 cabin width is 12' 2" while the 737's are 11' 7" so you get an extra 7" on the bus. Makes a difference. A320 cockpit was very roomy compared to the 737. A320 did not have the "feel" the 737 did, I'll admit that but overall I liked the A320 a lot more, but then I'm a computer geek so the bus appealed to me.

Keep in mind the A220 isn't really an Airbus product, it's Bombardier where it was known as the C-series. So it's going to be quite different from native Airbus products.
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Old 01-16-2022, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TommyJ1026
Any new hires getting TPA? I did the video interview yesterday. Trying to figure out how risky it would be trying to bet on being able to hold Tampa. I would be forfeiting United Aviate for it but, yes, I do hate commuting that much.
Lol no. Very senior. If you get it expect a nice time on reserve getting sent out of base to cover ORF flying.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Craknacoldie
Wow! How is there no min daily ? Surely these basic work rules are a must. Is there anything been done or communicated about improving these things ?
Tell that to management. The pilot committee has tried to tell them that… but the company decided to stop communicating with them over 2 months ago.


Ironic that you create a pilot committee to create dialogue between the pilot group and mgmt then cut off the committee.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose
Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.
Summed it up perfectly. Allegiant+ Mesa mentality is 100% what TP has created here.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
What do they do for junior manning people? You pull into the gate from your single turn and get told you have a second turn now? Call people on their days off? (everyone should know not to answer the phone on their day off, unless they want to work) Or do they go in after awards come out and put stuff on people's schedules or something ridiculous like that?
I’ll give you a recent example.

CA “A” was called at 4 am on reserve and told they were being put back on rest immediately to work a PM turn.

Meanwhile the day before, the company calls FO B and asks them to work the AM turn because of staffing. The FO agrees because this makes their day commutable. They then attempt to assign the PM turn to FO C, but that FO was on AM reserve thus making them not legal to work the full turn for duty limits.

Because the company has no idea what they are doing, they message FO B in the downwind to tell them that they are going to fly trip #1 to deadhead out and fly the leg back. So FO B misses their commute home and works a max duty day, FO C works one leg out and deadheads back, CA A is flying fatigued meanwhile.


Meanwhile the company has plenty of PM reserves to cover all of this. Now you have another two FO’s ready to quit.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW
Tell that to management. The pilot committee has tried to tell them that… but the company decided to stop communicating with them over 2 months ago.


Ironic that you create a pilot committee to create dialogue between the pilot group and mgmt then cut off the committee.
Wow

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Old 01-16-2022, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBear
The majors will always have personality testing for one reason: Germanwings Flt 9525. Also some lesser events like the JetBlue PIC although that could have been something that developed well after he was hired. My previous company had a pilot who had a serious personality disorder. In lieu of firing him they let him use up his 3 years of medical leave then terminated him. Afterwards some Security Alerts Came out about him trying to access a flight line at various FBO's.
Yeah really, it's a textbook Corporate America solution to a complex psychiatric problem that lead someone to do such an awful thing. We'll solve it by giving them a test made by a bunch of nerds that have never seen the outside of a classroom to make sure they aren't suicidal... but only after they've already been flying our passengers for 5 to 10 years. It's not like there are any test prep programs or gouges out there that everyone uses to prepare for the personality assessment (or since it's done online at home you can just have someone else that might be more adept at giving the correct answers take it for you), and the whole rest of the interview, or anything like that.

It's just a way to reduce the number of possible candidates to manageable level for interviews because they have too many applications for the amount of spots they actually need to fill. The same goes for the mandates for a vaccine that has been proven to be useless and probably dangerous. A further way to lighten the pile of applications. Why do very few regionals have one? If the "shortage" actually gets serious, everyone who meets the minimum criteria will be offered an interview at least, and decisions will be made at the actual interview, and all the cog tests and all that non-sense will go away. Lets face it, if someone can fly a CRJ-900 competently as PIC, they can probably handle a 737 or A320.
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua
(or since it's done online at home you can just have someone else that might be more adept at giving the correct answers take it for you).
Would have been extremely difficult when I took the Hogan. Are you familiar with the requirements when taking it?
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Old 01-16-2022, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW
I’ll give you a recent example.

CA “A” was called at 4 am on reserve and told they were being put back on rest immediately to work a PM turn.

Meanwhile the day before, the company calls FO B and asks them to work the AM turn because of staffing. The FO agrees because this makes their day commutable. They then attempt to assign the PM turn to FO C, but that FO was on AM reserve thus making them not legal to work the full turn for duty limits.

Because the company has no idea what they are doing, they message FO B in the downwind to tell them that they are going to fly trip #1 to deadhead out and fly the leg back. So FO B misses their commute home and works a max duty day, FO C works one leg out and deadheads back, CA A is flying fatigued meanwhile.


Meanwhile the company has plenty of PM reserves to cover all of this. Now you have another two FO’s ready to quit.
So a scheduling circus. Sounds like what happens at a certain 737 operator I know of, where they seemed to have no desire to fix the problem. And they had a cadre they could depend on to bail them out when they got themselves a$$ deep in sh1t. That's generally what seemed to enable that kind of non-sense. There were those that were too eager to help them out of their paper bag. Was FO B on a day off or otherwise off duty when they contacted him?
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