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Old 05-30-2016, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
Just for some perspective, I flew with a reserve CA here at PSA some months back who came back to the states from EK. He also used to work at JetBlue before EK. And that guy couldn't get a call from a legacy right away. He is still trying to get on somewhere as far as I know. So it isn't as easy as you may think. If you really want to come back to the states, I would apply everywhere you can, and see what comes your way.
The problem that the OP is going to have is currency of hand flying. Someone who flies a jumbo for 12 hours at a time and gets one or two landings a week has worse stick and rudder skills than a below average regional line pilot. And every major airline knows that.

Chrisreedrules' advice, get a job ANYWHERE in the US, is the most sound advice offered in this thread. I'll add that the OP should look for a job where he's going to land the aircraft at least once a day, not Omni or Atlas. After a short stint at a regional or LCC, the majors will move your resume up close to the top of the stack. But coming from EK directly to UA/AA/DAL is a dicey longshot.
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy View Post
The problem that the OP is going to have is currency of hand flying. Someone who flies a jumbo for 12 hours at a time and gets one or two landings a week has worse stick and rudder skills than a below average regional line pilot. And every major airline knows that.
Didn't stop me (and about 5 of my co-workers) from going from a wide-body to a major.
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tailendcharlie View Post
Honestly, ask yourself - do you just want back in the U.S.A., or will you come back only for a legacy job. If it's the first case, then you might consider applying to the second tier of carriers like Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant. Reason being once you're in the States it'll be 10x easier to do the networking, the job fairs, the volunteer gigs, that are now essential to getting an interview slot.
Spirit is now second tier? Standards&Poor and Moody's upgraded them.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mach86 View Post
After 10+ years at EK, considering going back home. Which of the three DAL/UAL/AAL would you recommend and why?

-How many years to upgrade?
-How long to get back above 200K?
-What is the most junior base in each?
-What is the junior fleet?

Looking for quality of life first, pay second. Also enjoy international flying, and would want to get back to that soon.
People who enable the ME3 and sell their souls to work there should never be allowed to get a job at a union carrier in the us again. You are like scab in my eyes, same with anyone thinking of going to NAI.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AppleJuice View Post
People who enable the ME3 and sell their souls to work there should never be allowed to get a job at a union carrier in the us again. You are like scab in my eyes, same with anyone thinking of going to NAI.





Ouchhhhhhh

Not a scab , come on ....
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseJaw View Post
Oh GMAFB. When the "Top Tier" places like AA had guys on furlough for a decade and Airways A-320 maxed out at $125/hr what the F did you expect guys to do?

It's amazing how short the memory is for some of you guys.





Out of the 350 or so pilots at EK from the United States
80 percent are RJ drivers

Stats don't lie......you do

5 United pilots only went to EK.. as I was told by the furlough coordinator

Can you tell us how many from Airways went?

By the way the 125 dollars was your f--- up since you dropped ALPA and had that joke USAPA

FYI I am not ex America West either
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules View Post
Just for some perspective, I flew with a reserve CA here at PSA some months back who came back to the states from EK. He also used to work at JetBlue before EK. And that guy couldn't get a call from a legacy right away. He is still trying to get on somewhere as far as I know. So it isn't as easy as you may think. If you really want to come back to the states, I would apply everywhere you can, and see what comes your way.



He will be leaving Frontier soon too for a legacy I hope
Because he is a great guy
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66 View Post
Ouchhhhhhh

Not a scab , come on ....
I said like a scab on the same level, not technically a scab but let's be honest, people who would go work for those airlines probably would cross a picket line.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AppleJuice View Post
I said like a scab on the same level, not technically a scab but let's be honest, people who would go work for those airlines probably would cross a picket line.
Yeah let's not go throwing that word around. It needs to keep it's meaning.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:14 AM
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People who enable the ME3 and sell their souls to work there should never be allowed to get a job at a union carrier in the us again. You are like scab in my eyes, same with anyone thinking of going to NAI.
That's not even close to being accurate, way off line. You want to talk about union carriers in the US? How about the TWA staple job? AWA / US Airways binding arbitration? How did that go for union brothers?

Most Americans that went to Emirates were in two large phases, one was the post 9/11 phase when they were being furloughed here, losing pensions, and EK was offering a DEC widebody position. It was as close to current buying power as they could get. You want to blame someone, go blame the seniority system and the complete lack of portability it offers once a carrier goes poof or you get furloughed. The second phase of pilots was the 2008-2011 phase when Age 65 passed and the economy tanked into the great recession. Again, no legacy was hiring and some were even furloughing. Most of these guys that went were RJ guys, and guess what? Those were (and still are) union jobs flying Delta, United, and American painted jets at less than half the going wage at the legacies.

The sheer hypocrisy of it all is quite rich.
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