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Old 03-20-2017 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
The reality is that no one knows anything, except that Amazon is joining the party and will start whipsawing the ACMI's, and put hurt on UPS / Fed Ex.

Recently, the behemoth Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) has made motions towards taking on more of the delivery of packages themselves. With them spending over $11 billion annually in shipping, the idea of taking on more of that burden is certainly attractive. With an estimated savings of $3 per package, if it handled more of the delivery, the savings would add up quickly.

Surprisingly though, the threat this poses for both FedEx and UPS is rather muted. Moody's estimates that Amazon spent $665 million with FedEx and $2.2 billion with UPS in 2015 - inconsequential when compared to revenues of $47.4 billion and $58.3 billion, respectively.


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4% of your business is nothing to sneeze at, but I don't believe the suits in Atlanta are worried about Amazon.
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Old 03-20-2017 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by G550Guy
4% of your business is nothing to sneeze at, but I don't believe the suits in Atlanta are worried about Amazon.
In 1995 book stores were not worried about Amazon.
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Old 03-20-2017 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash
In 1995 book stores were not worried about Amazon.
What's a book store?
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Old 03-21-2017 | 12:34 AM
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What's a book store?


That place where you go to read magazines and not buy them. Same goes with comic book stores too.


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Old 03-21-2017 | 11:43 AM
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Amazon, DHL reported to be in partnership in Cincinnati.

Soon after Amazon made its announcement last month that it would build a huge new air hub at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport (CVG), rumors began circulating about a possible partnership with DHL’s Americas Hub. Well, according to a story in The Lane Report, the rumors appear to be true. As reported in sister publication Cargo Facts, Amazon will begin daytime use of DHL’s Americas Hub at CVG in May.
Amazon chose not to comment, but the report quotes Bea Garcia, DHL’s media relations director for the Americas, as saying: “DHL can confirm that it has been contracted to provide a range of services to Amazon at the DHL Cincinnati Hub, including sorting operations and ground handling for the Amazon air network. We look forward to providing further support to this global customer.”
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Old 03-21-2017 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CallmeJB
What's a book store?
I was in Target the other day and they had a book section with both hardcover and softcover books.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 09:19 PM
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Well, Amazon makes up less than 10% revenue for UPS and less than, I think, 5 or 7% of revenue for FedEx. Losing the entire Amazon volume for either would make a dent but definitely not put either out of business.
Originally Posted by G550Guy
4% of your business is nothing to sneeze at, but I don't believe the suits in Atlanta are worried about Amazon.
Atlanta might not be worried about losing Amazon volume, but they sure should be worried about losing non-Amazon volume.

Amazon might only be 4-10% of UPS's business, but area "B" alone in the photo below looks to be about the size of the SDF "Worldport". Anyone who thinks Amazon will not be going after other UPS/FedEx customers after building out all this infrastructure is in denial.

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Old 03-22-2017 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by J Dawg
Atlanta might not be worried about losing Amazon volume, but they sure should be worried about losing non-Amazon volume.

Amazon might only be 4-10% of UPS's business, but area "B" alone in the photo below looks to be about the size of the SDF "Worldport". Anyone who thinks Amazon will not be going after other UPS/FedEx customers after building out all this infrastructure is in denial.

They aren't building that thing for 40 767's, that's for damn sure.
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Old 03-22-2017 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by J Dawg
Atlanta might not be worried about losing Amazon volume, but they sure should be worried about losing non-Amazon volume.

Amazon might only be 4-10% of UPS's business, but area "B" alone in the photo below looks to be about the size of the SDF "Worldport". Anyone who thinks Amazon will not be going after other UPS/FedEx customers after building out all this infrastructure is in denial.

How long before Amazon has to offer a "hiring bonus" at all of their CMI carriers? Sounds like fun!
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Old 03-22-2017 | 10:03 AM
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You may be overstating Amazon's contracts with UPS and FedEx. While Amazon contracts a lot of life from the "big Two", the yields are quite low so while the revenue may drop it won't be by much and, FedEx at least, is turning away business for lack of planes and crews, but not for long.
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