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maxjet 02-16-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 2529896)
Sorry but you’re not going to guilt me into caring about him volunteering his time to a cause I don’t believe in. Maybe he should run for office when this is all done and I’ll appreciate his sacrifice then.

Maybe you should just get in contact with him yourself instead of coming on here and complaining. Is that too much to ask? You are not seriously trying to write that 1224 was giving us informative accurate information?

jhugz 02-16-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2530025)
Tell me how should he communicate to you?
Telepathically

There’s this really cool thing out now where you write a letter but on a magic box. It then through the process of magic ends up in the receivers magic box to read.

Lockheed 02-16-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 2530062)
There’s this really cool thing out now where you write a letter but on a magic box. It then through the process of magic ends up in the receivers magic box to read.

Well all the magic only works if you have email or snail mail addresses
Which ALPA does not have yet

Watch for a press release soon

jhugz 02-16-2018 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2530082)
Well all the magic only works if you have email or snail mail addresses
Which ALPA does not have yet

Watch for a press release soon

I’m sure you could of just @all the pilots on the company email since they supported the ALPA drive. Don’t think they would of minded.

Lockheed 02-16-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 2530083)
I’m sure you could of just @all the pilots on the company email since they supported the ALPA drive. Don’t think they would of minded.

If you really need to know something
You can pm me and we'll talk

Lockheed 02-16-2018 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2529816)
You (and your Company) have to abide by your contract. Your contract is between your bargaining group and your company. 1224 or ALPA are the bargaining representative of that group. Anything they do is as your representative, but it is you, as a group, that is obligated by your agreement.

As noted above, any voting or whatever that has happened so far is merely a step in the process of changing the representative; your representative is still 1224 unless and until every step in the specified procedure has taken place. Only then would ALPA be the representative. The structure of the process means that you at all times have a bargaining representative.

And while people think of 1224 or ALPA or whomever of having "signed" the contract, in fact it is your group that signed. Changing the representative doesn't change that.

Both unions have been through this process many times before, and their people know how it works and what to do, and when they can and cannot legally communicate. I expect that the print shop at ALPA is spinning up customized welcome and informational packets, which will be distributed as soon as it is legal to do so.

This is the most informed post on this thread in a long time
Exactly correct

CallmeJB 02-16-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 2530088)
If you really need to know something
You can pm me and we'll talk

That's every internal pilot union dispute in a nutshell right there.

"Why would I send an email when you can just call me? I'm an open book!"

orka 02-16-2018 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by wjcandee (Post 2529816)
As noted above, any voting or whatever that has happened so far is merely a step in the process of changing the representative; your representative is still 1224 unless and until every step in the specified procedure has taken place.

Hmmm, then why am I locked out of the1224 website?

Lockheed 02-16-2018 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by orka (Post 2530116)
Hmmm, then why am I locked out of the1224 website?

Because the steps have taken place
You are no longer a Teamster

maxjet 02-16-2018 11:35 AM

Membership Status: No Access


Unfortunately, as of February 16, 2018, Teamsters is no longer the certified bargaining representative for the pilots of Kalitta Air.


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