ATI hiring through 2019
11-09-2019, 06:23 PM
#621
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Originally Posted by airbus300
There was rumors floating around within the last 6 months or so that ATI would lose the DHL contract for the 4 757's that we fly for them. Would the ABX and ATLAS pilot group be willing to back us up and honor an ATI pilot strike against DHL in protest? How about if this strike happens today starting in 45 minutes? What would you do Riverside?
Have to add Kalitta Air into the mix. I see that he now works for K4.
Have to add Kalitta Air into the mix. I see that he now works for K4.
11-09-2019, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome
Again I get all of that. But my question remains, why picket the customer? Don’t get me wrong, there is a time and place to picket your own employer and to join in solidarity. However amazon is the customer. If a company (say atlas) has pilots picketing amazon that definitely is sending a message. Not that I have a dog in that fight, but pilots picketing amazon is sending a strong go eff yourself message. So amazon reacts. And naturally management says to investors and the media “see? It’s these no good pesky complaining pilots. They are the problem!” In all fairness Amazon has publicly stated that management is the problem too.
Lastly, though Amazon expects to be scrutinized, they do not want to be criticized. Worse yet, they don’t want their flights to go late or not at all. That’s what is gonna get their attention the fastest! And boy has it!! So yes management has taken a kick in the balls but the pilot group has as well. Why? Because it will me a miracle if Amazon reverses direction and puts planes back into the hands of AAWW. That’s less opportunities for new hires and upgrades.
Lastly, though Amazon expects to be scrutinized, they do not want to be criticized. Worse yet, they don’t want their flights to go late or not at all. That’s what is gonna get their attention the fastest! And boy has it!! So yes management has taken a kick in the balls but the pilot group has as well. Why? Because it will me a miracle if Amazon reverses direction and puts planes back into the hands of AAWW. That’s less opportunities for new hires and upgrades.
11-09-2019, 06:37 PM
#623
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Originally Posted by Aerospeed
When you ridiculously picket your customer you get what is happening to Atlas and ABX. ATI is getting all of Atlas’s 767s that fly for Amazon. ABX will finish their contract with 5 767s and then those will go to ATI. Bottom line, Amazon called their bluff and ATI will continue to have an amazing future with Amazon! Who pickets a customer? Amazon has nothing to do with your pay or contract. Again, that’s what you get with Teamsters, lol.
11-09-2019, 06:49 PM
#624
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
Scope is what you also get with Teamsters. It's also why ATI will not be getting any ABX aircraft.
11-09-2019, 07:13 PM
#625
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Originally Posted by 727CA
The Scope is to prevent any other ATSG airline to fly B767 aircraft from CVG with DHL cargo. Doesn't apply to Amazon
1) 767 domestic DHL in NA.
2) Does not allow ABX aircraft to be transferred from ABX certificate to any other ATSG airline certificate.
11-09-2019, 10:44 PM
#626
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Originally Posted by Aerospeed
ATI is getting all of Atlas’s 767s that fly for Amazon. ABX will finish their contract with 5 767s and then those will go to ATI. Bottom line, Amazon called their bluff and ATI will continue to have an amazing future with Amazon!
11-09-2019, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerospeed
We have no desire to retain DHL and are cutting it to make our company more profitable and available to our exploding Amazon growth.
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