i have to say more and more guys i talk to are voting yes now...they say they are not bidding it anyway and don't want to screw the guys who go out of the allowance when the company puts the bid out under the CBA ... also the scope issue...they don't want to lose the int'l flying...it may pass anyway

 

The union told me that the company would pay for a hotel in the FDA for the duration of the assignment, so your family can come over. The union said we would just have to trust them and the company because they would not put the intent in writing. I can not believe the company will let you keep a room in the FDA if your trips are not into the FDA everyday. I used the link on the FedEx site to ask for a clarification but no answer in a week!!!! I think where ever you lay over is where you will get your room and you will have to pay for a room some days if your family stays the whole SVT assignment. If there is no chance of being assigned this then why not get rid of it.

 

Hey pinseeker,

You say you are a "yes" voter...Does that mean you are a "YES" bidder for one of the FDAs?

You will be voting for what amounts to a "B scale" on our property. $2700/mo does not come close to making up the difference in cost of living expenses. Even, if you're comparing LAX to CDG.

But regardless, it's not just the STV or housing allowance. It's the whole package and all of its unknowns.

It's kind of ironic that a company that always touts itself on being one the top 10 places to work, would offer one of the worst expat packages I've ever heard of.

 

The MEC and the company already admit that the STV language is there to force those worthless scum 757 Initial Cadre over there.

Why the language about inverse filling. Why not say if STV not filled then SIBA will be used to fill the slots. This STV language is a big give back, lets not wait till they try to open the FDA in Somalia or Turdistan to negotiate it away.

 

Pinseeker,
I respect your right to vote how you see fit here. I don't know if you are junior or senior, but is that influencing how you vote? The junior guys are the ones getting screwed here (ALPA Standard), so if you are junior I don't understand how you could vote for this Piece of FOD.

In answer to your housing question---Yes I would expect the company to pay for 100% of a reasonable house in either Hong Kong or Paris if I were to bring my family. I never had to be concerned about a pay cut, sutiable housing, or my kids education when I served overseas in the military, and I should'nt have to worry about it at a world class company like ours. "Anything else is rubish."

Bottom Line (this one's for Albie):

YGBSM---NFW. That's a NO

 

You will get lodging, how, where, is anybody's guess? (also get per diem every day for the whole period, why you have to submit a paylog for it, who knows....after all, the company knows you are there, should just be paid automatically)

LOA
6. The pilot shall be entitled to Company paid lodging in accommodations of quality similar to that of the local contract hotels.


So, what exactly does similar mean to you? What do you think it means to the company?

Still don't think the STD will go senior. Yeah, wife and kids are coming over for a 90 day vacation to my 1 room hotel, should be fun. we even got the same flight, but now the "dependents" want to know why I am riding up front, while they are stuck in coach (bet that will be a fun 15 hour flight to HKG)


I clearly have to protect these Senior guys from themselves by voting No for this LOA

 

This folks is a deal stopper. If it aint in writing it will not happen. This company has on too many occasions decided that the "intent" is no longer in their best interest and changed the way things are done. There are too many things in this LOA open to interpretation and we are not the ones doing the interpreting.



Voting in this LOA brings to mind a Clint Eastwood quote

"...you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?"

 

Has anybody figured out what happens if you have training or vacation the months you voluntarily choose STV or if your inversed into STV? TonyC since your on the MEC surely you guys have discussed that scenario. How does it work under the current CBA Section 11.

If I get STV Reserve line and protect min. days off for training do I lose my block of R days. Do I get a ticket to MEM for training? Do I lose pay if I dont train on days off?

If I have vacation for a months of STV, do I get a hotel while on vacation or do I have to jumpseat home? I have emailed FDX about these questions and no answers. Has the MEC asked contract administration how all the rules meld together to affect the crewmember. What the hell are our dues money going to if we cant come out with some real info on how this is going to affect us? This whole situation is frustrating.

The fact that they are asking us to trust them and the company is a joke. They were not asking us to trust them this time last year. What has really changed at FDX Corp that makes them so trustworthy. If I took a legal agreement with so many things unanswered to my attorney he would laugh!

 

I TRUST that BC and the rest of the MEC do not care about this LOA because it will not have any impact on them...and they wouldn't want any guy junior to them making a dollar more than them due to housing allowance, tuition allowance for kids, or Expat tax breaks.

I BELIEVE that if they get us to take this concessionary deal they will be looking to the company for a PAY RAISE on the 777 LOA for themselves. Where they can camp out until they hit 65.

Once again...they made sure the 757 pay scale was already taken care of for the junior guys so no LOA for that.

 

That's the problem, its not in writing. What happens in three or four months when someone different in travel audit starts to read the LOA. They will say that's it not in the CBA/LOA.