Browntail

Being as you are a manager, you'd have to cross or be fired!

Trash Hauler 1

"Trash hauler" is a term used in the military for a cargo pilot. As far as respecting "our merchandise", its not our merchandise, its our customers'. That, I do respect. The crude remark about mamma illuminates your low moral standards. I will never cross a picket line, not even for double your manager's pay and double your annual manager's bonus. I would just as soon flip burgers at McD. But then, that resolution is something you couldn't understand

UPS CPT

That's right, the Teamsters said they would support IPA. They did not say they would honor picket lines. They also will cross. 185,000 Teamsters will not support 2,700 pilots. Please keep the veiled profanity off this forum.

Browntail

phuck you manager puke. teamsters have already stated they will honor our picket lines along with ups dispatchers and teamster mechanics.

BoynamedSue

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Soyathink

Browntail,

Think what you wish but the rhetoric of the IPA and the attitudes of the pilots and IPA have lead to the teamster rank and file to say pretty much screw you. I'm not a manager with UPS nor do I work on the air side. I am an official within the Teamsters. My teamster brothers are fed up with you and your union leadership. So Hoffa himself reaffirmed a strike? You will see a change in Teamster leadership if that were to happen. I am telling you the rank and file have had it with the IPA. You can stay unified all you want I'm just stating a fact amongst us in the Teamsters. Look around at other message boards I'm not the only one spewing this so called "crap". With dwindling union memberships and pulling away from the AFL-CIO, the Teamsters would welcome 2700 new UPS pilots into the group.
As far as replacements, have any of you heard of Atlas, Gemini, Polar, World, Evergreen and others? Hell Nicholson comes out stating the IPA will not fly Northwest struck goods and Northwest pilots even flew struck goods. Atlas still flew while Polar was striking and they are the same company with the same union. You IPA guys are really brainwashed by your so called leaders. I hope your leaders do well on December 19th when talks resume. UPS has stated they are prepared for the IPA to ask to be released from mediation. I'm sure the Menlo contractors will be glad to take on some more work too. Trust me the teamsters think Nicholson is an Ahole.

UPS CPT

Hip!Hip! Hooray! Reality has set in. Thank you! UPS could bankrupt the IPA
in about a week. I would love to see replacements who have some respect for our legacy of hard work for an honest day's pay. Most IPA pilots will cross in a short amount of time. The aholes will not, but we can do without them. I would love to see a strike. Bring it on. We can rebuild without the IPA.

UPS CPT

BrownBusDriver

It is good to know a single individual other than Hoffa speaks for the Teamsters. You sound rather irritated at the pilots in general. Any particular reason? Traveled to SYR lately?

From my view and contacts within the Teamsters, we have a bit more support than you seem to show. That is OK, there are weak links everywhere. I'm sure the mechanics and many of the drivers will be on our side. I think the driver's contract is up for negotiation soon, where will you stand then?

By the way, all the above stated contract outfits are quite busy with the war, mail and other contracts.

The management pilots might find themselves in very uncomfortable positions soon too. I predict when this is over they will be either on our seniority list or gone.

BrownBusDriver

UPS CPT

That would be bad CRM. I probably would contract a fatal disease from your spit. Then I might have to file an Event Report. That would mean a Letter of Concern in your file. So there!!

BrownBusDriver

Never held a line in your life. Management. Fly twice a month, in the day. Whine like it is not tomorrow how tough your job is. I've flow for a decade with you guys. Give me a break.