UPS-IPA talks fail
#21
"If Fed Ex is so great then why do you have a pilots union?"
In case UPS managers come over to mangle FredEx.
" Didn't he have Atlas lined up to fly if you walked?" Nice... Let me guess 30 or so 747s and 500 crew members will cover the daily load of 5000 pilots and 600+ aircraft. Math not your strong suit?
"I also know a number of Ex UPS managers now at Fed Ex." Know any ex FedEx managers at UPS? Me neither! Because......?
In case UPS managers come over to mangle FredEx.
" Didn't he have Atlas lined up to fly if you walked?" Nice... Let me guess 30 or so 747s and 500 crew members will cover the daily load of 5000 pilots and 600+ aircraft. Math not your strong suit?
"I also know a number of Ex UPS managers now at Fed Ex." Know any ex FedEx managers at UPS? Me neither! Because......?
#22
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Remember, NWA did it with 800 replacements for the 4000 scum bags that went on strike. UPS can also replace its scum bag IPA pilots with far less than 2700.
#23
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Originally Posted by Trash Hauler 1
"If Fed Ex is so great then why do you have a pilots union?"
In case UPS managers come over to mangle FredEx.
" Didn't he have Atlas lined up to fly if you walked?" Nice... Let me guess 30 or so 747s and 500 crew members will cover the daily load of 5000 pilots and 600+ aircraft. Math not your strong suit?
"I also know a number of Ex UPS managers now at Fed Ex." Know any ex FedEx managers at UPS? Me neither! Because......?
In case UPS managers come over to mangle FredEx.
" Didn't he have Atlas lined up to fly if you walked?" Nice... Let me guess 30 or so 747s and 500 crew members will cover the daily load of 5000 pilots and 600+ aircraft. Math not your strong suit?
"I also know a number of Ex UPS managers now at Fed Ex." Know any ex FedEx managers at UPS? Me neither! Because......?
The reason you don't see Fed Ex managers at UPS is because they are probably not good enough.
#24
Originally Posted by Soyathink
The reason you don't see Fed Ex managers at UPS is because they are probably not good enough.
#25
That might work domestically for about 2 weeks, until the manglers all time out, but you can't move international volume by truck. And that's where all the profit is for UPS. In 97, the Teamster strike ended about 1 week too early in my opinion, because Atlanta never got to feel the pain of having no way to move their intl volume as the manglers were about 3 days from their FAA max time for the 30 day period. Merry Christmas to all!
Originally Posted by Soyathink
Isn't it amazing how UPS can do it with half the planes and pilots? Why because we are able to move alot of it via ground instead of air. Do you think Fred could do that if the pilots walked? Yes. The reason why he doesn't because of the separation between the ground and express. All Atlas would have to do is hub to hub and other contractors and trucks could move to the spokes.
The reason you don't see Fed Ex managers at UPS is because they are probably not good enough.
The reason you don't see Fed Ex managers at UPS is because they are probably not good enough.
#26
Eightmenout1
Now we know your not a pilot! first, for UPS to replace even half of the 2700 IPA members would take months at best. Your probably a ground guy who thinks flying a Jet is like driving a truck, just sit down, start the engines and drive! It doesn't work that way! Also If you were a check Airmen you would understand this point implicitly! I just spent 5 months learning a new jet. You do seem to write like a person with a limited education/vocabulary and therefore you are "out of your league" on this forum. Irregardless, I do wish you a merry Christmas spend some time with your family and let the real pilots worry about our issues.
Vito
Now we know your not a pilot! first, for UPS to replace even half of the 2700 IPA members would take months at best. Your probably a ground guy who thinks flying a Jet is like driving a truck, just sit down, start the engines and drive! It doesn't work that way! Also If you were a check Airmen you would understand this point implicitly! I just spent 5 months learning a new jet. You do seem to write like a person with a limited education/vocabulary and therefore you are "out of your league" on this forum. Irregardless, I do wish you a merry Christmas spend some time with your family and let the real pilots worry about our issues.
Vito
#27
Its great reading the garbage the UPS Mgt suck-ups put on this forum. I guess they get payed to spread this BS because it (they??) couldn't fly anywhere else
#28
Originally Posted by EIGHTMENOUT1
UPS can also replace its scum bag IPA pilots with far less than 2700.
Answer this one question as quicly as possible to see if you really know anything about the inside of big brown. Who's airlines certificate did we buy back in 1986 to start our own airline? Better answer quickly.
Cheers
#29
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We Were Known As International Parcel Express (ipxa) And Still Retain That Certificate Name. We Shared It With Dhl And Bought It Out In Early 1988.
Next Question, Please
Next Question, Please
#30
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You know very well that all of the "scum bag" managers would get date of hire seniority and seat protection. So it would not matter.
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