UPS System Bid 08-101
03-01-2008, 12:32 PM
#101
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 757/767
Posts: 579
Originally Posted by Rocco
Do you realize what it does to our numbers when INDIVIDUALS pick up open time......How many hours were picked up last year, too many? I didnt think you were an all about ME kind of guy. Who cares about other trying to get a job here right?
Captains: 36,079
F/Os: 34,342
S/Os: 1,552
Total: 71,998
72,000 credit hours is about 12,000 days of work per year.
We have 812 lines of reserve, that is 15 days of work per reserve per year.
That is a little over 1 day per reserve per pay period.
Draw you own conclusions.
03-01-2008, 01:19 PM
#102
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by Roberto
At this time, all ANC FO slots are filled with over-60 guys, but who knows what will happen the hour before the bid closes?
03-01-2008, 02:47 PM
#103
Freightmama!
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Originally Posted by Rocco
Was it a surprise when you got your first paycheck? Lack of financial planning?
Do you realize what it does to our numbers when INDIVIDUALS pick up open time......How many hours were picked up last year, too many? I didnt think you were an all about ME kind of guy. Who cares about other trying to get a job here right?
Do you realize what it does to our numbers when INDIVIDUALS pick up open time......How many hours were picked up last year, too many? I didnt think you were an all about ME kind of guy. Who cares about other trying to get a job here right?
03-01-2008, 02:50 PM
#104
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Originally Posted by Rocco
Couple of people just got in Hot water over this, not making their trip....one got the AX 
What's the story behind this? Someone got fired for missing a trip? Was it a new hire?
03-01-2008, 03:29 PM
#105
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 511
Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
I don't think it's fair to tell someone they had a lack of financial planning if they need to pick up some open time on first year pay. GMAB!
03-01-2008, 03:36 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 511
Originally Posted by Slice
Did you not read the part where I said I don't do open or JA flying? How about focusing on the beyond year one guys doing this when they're already making six figure incomes? Not everyone has the financial means to plan for being hired here on the chance they MAY get an offer and then a class date...I was fortunate to have another option without maxing out my credit cards. I'm not throwing spears but rather than say 'don't do this' when they clear <$2500/month, offer these guys a solution.
Never saw anything you said about open time or JA flying. I was just replying to your response. I believe you if you say you dont......I know this is a hot subject. Just look at the stuff on the B&G. When our time comes to change this, first year pay, I WILL do my part.
Last edited by Rocco; 03-01-2008 at 04:53 PM.
03-01-2008, 07:44 PM
#109
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: 757/767 FO
Posts: 2,880
Originally Posted by Rocco
The same logic applies to someone trying to support a lifestyle beyond their means. Would you not agree that people picking up open time is bad?
I think that if you need to pick up open time to pay your bills (after first year pay) is bad.
I think picking up open time during negotiations or when encouraged by the union not to is bad.
I think picking up open time on first year pay is understandable.
I think if a good trip comes up and you want a little extra money for whatever, it's your choice to pick it up and make some extra cash. I think it's unreasonable to expect someone to NEVER pick up an open time trip here and there.
If I was to lose my job right now and I had to go somewhere and make $33K this year, I would be majorly SCREWED financially and I do not live beyond my means. I have savings, a baby due soon and another career to fall back on but I would still be in deep money doo doo real quick! I don't think it's fair to say someone coming to UPS that needs supplemental income the first year has lacked in financial planning.
03-01-2008, 08:12 PM
#110
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: I was acquired, Not Hired
Posts: 1,784
Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
I think that if you need to pick up open time to pay your bills (after first year pay) is bad.
I think picking up open time on first year pay is understandable.
I think picking up open time on first year pay is understandable.
I didn't pick up a whole lot of open time in my first year because at $33/hr an extra trip nets me about $380 a month extra. Didn't make a whole lotta sense for me to commute from Tampa to ANC to do such.
My thanks to the Capts that extended the tradition of dinner on layovers for newhires..THANK YOU. I hope I can repay the favor to future newhires.
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