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Old 03-02-2008 | 09:25 AM
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Rather than lamb-baste the crew member in this particular situation, I'd like to know why the company has tried, and tried successfully to assign these DP's outside normal assignment parameters.
Because no one else will take them if they don't? (At least in ANC & SFS)
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Old 03-02-2008 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
Hope I get either or both on my reserve line.....no landings and (yes fr8, no J/S) no excuses and no slack....good guy or no.......not any more. I expect all to give me the same if I pick up DP.
Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Of course, as a reservist, I just might have a front row seat to see who's picked them up in the other seat...
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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:19 PM
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So.....he's picking up DP's to somehow punish or get back at the "Union" (which is all of us by the way)? YGTBSM. Sophomoric, childish and immature come to mind. Where do we find such men?
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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
So.....he's picking up DP's to somehow punish or get back at the "Union" (which is all of us by the way)? YGTBSM. Sophomoric, childish and immature come to mind. Where do we find such men?
I agree. Not the smartest tactic.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliffy170
So, what you're saying Fr8, and correct me if I'm not interpreting your comment correctly, is that it's alright to pick up a DP as long as you are going to get "anal glaucoma" and "... not be on it ..." And it's alright if you're a "good man." And, it's alright if you are ANC-based, because picking up a DP is different in ANC than in MEM. Cut the hypocrisy, I've read a lot of these DP posts. I'm sorry. You pick up a DP trip you suffer the slings and arrows from the crew force.

Rather than lamb-baste the crew member in this particular situation, I'd like to know why the company has tried, and tried successfully to assign these DP's outside normal assignment parameters.
No that is not what I am saying. I am merely stating that all of us are capable of making a mistake and then correcting it. So back off a little. Just trying to give someone the benefit of the doubt before everyone calls for a lynching. Not making any statements about what is wrong and right. We have bunches of guys who scew this up every month. It has been a problem. I also hope to be able to someday learn to live the perfect life where I never make any mistakes that I regret later.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 05:35 PM
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before everyone calls for a lynching.
I bet the PC police take that "L" word out. I don't think you are allowed to use it anymore.....
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Old 03-02-2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliffy170
So, what you're saying Fr8, and correct me if I'm not interpreting your comment correctly, is that it's alright to pick up a DP as long as you are going to get "anal glaucoma" and "... not be on it ..." And it's alright if you're a "good man." And, it's alright if you are ANC-based, because picking up a DP is different in ANC than in MEM. Cut the hypocrisy, I've read a lot of these DP posts. I'm sorry. You pick up a DP trip you suffer the slings and arrows from the crew force.

Rather than lamb-baste the crew member in this particular situation, I'd like to know why the company has tried, and tried successfully to assign these DP's outside normal assignment parameters.
I appreciate your sentiments Cliffy170 but I think Fr8Hauler is right in reference to KS. He has always been a standup guy in reference to truly supporting our pilot group. I don't think it is over until the trip is actually flown. I think that is what makes the determination of whether we won or mgt.

Unless there has been some "invasion of the body snatchers" action going on in ANC this trip will not stay on his sched. I would have PMed you my opinion but you do not have enough posts yet.

Not looking for a fight, nor am I an apologist for anyone who actually flies these trips. Message typed in a hurry--feel free to pick apart my grammer and lack of use of a spell checker.
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Old 03-02-2008 | 06:52 PM
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Following this thread for awhile. Can't help but think that we are attacking the symptoms after the fact. If we had listened to the SIG before the last contract... pressed the union before/while the company turned up the optimizer.. which resulted in these disputed pairings. We would not be expending so much time and effort on harrassing our fellow pilots.

Take the time to ask yourselves.. how did we get here.

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Old 03-02-2008 | 07:14 PM
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Old 03-02-2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaxman187
I appreciate your sentiments Cliffy170 but I think Fr8Hauler is right in reference to KS. He has always been a standup guy in reference to truly supporting our pilot group. I don't think it is over until the trip is actually flown. I think that is what makes the determination of whether we won or mgt.

Unless there has been some "invasion of the body snatchers" action going on in ANC this trip will not stay on his sched. I would have PMed you my opinion but you do not have enough posts yet.

Not looking for a fight, nor am I an apologist for anyone who actually flies these trips. Message typed in a hurry--feel free to pick apart my grammer and lack of use of a spell checker.
Again..so it's OK to pick up a DP trip (for 60-80 hrs + training + vacation) and call in sick and get paid for it...and as long as I didn't "fly it"...it's OK??? Purple Nugget here trying to learn from my mentors...Thanks

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