Excess Bid?
01-24-2009 | 01:47 PM
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If there is a (-1) for a seat, say 27FO, and 10 people bid to "relieve excess"...do all 10 get to leave? or do 9 people have to be bumped down before they can leave...well, except the most senior who got the (-1)?
01-24-2009 | 01:51 PM
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Only 1 guy/gal, net, will get to leave. If 9 flow down due to excess from another seat, 10 get to move.
01-24-2009 | 02:14 PM
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Bus Capt's Overmanned...
You all keep talking about Bus FO's being overmanned...There are currently almost 100 more Capt's than FO's right now in the Bus. And on top of that they are using approx 40 more Bus FO's to cover the HKG SIBA...
01-24-2009 | 02:53 PM
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Most of the junior Airbus CAPT I have flown with say they would rather go Airbus FO than 727 Capt, since this will be 'temporary' and they don't want to go to training on a different AC.
Peace and Chicken Grease...
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Peace and Chicken Grease...
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01-24-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Most of the senior Bus FOs I have flown with say they go to Bus Captain if there is an excess in their seat. Some I have flown with are a 1000+ seniority #s senior to the most junior Capt.
01-24-2009 | 03:22 PM
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And what happens when the Boeing goes away? Another excess and another move package back to ANC or wherever you choose to move about the country.
Probably why the VIPS server is busy as the computer is trying to figure this one out.
01-24-2009 | 04:27 PM
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If they furlough they have 727SO's to replace (130?). Filled by excessed 11-200-727 FO's. Instead of filling the 727SO seat they would bid excess to ANC for the move package. Excessing ANC FO's.
And what happens when the Boeing goes away? Another excess and another move package back to ANC or wherever you choose to move about the country.
Probably why the VIPS server is busy as the computer is trying to figure this one out.
And what happens when the Boeing goes away? Another excess and another move package back to ANC or wherever you choose to move about the country.
Probably why the VIPS server is busy as the computer is trying to figure this one out.
Don't believe for a minute the excess bid would be so large as to force 727 FOs up to ANC against their will.
Keep in mind a furlough does not have to be 300. It could be 100. And with a corresponding reduction in 727 flying.
What will happen when the 727 goes away? Probably a vacancy bid. I've heard about those. I think people move up instead of down. Novel concept.
01-24-2009 | 04:55 PM
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Latest statements I've heard from "mgmt" is 727 is "currently" "properly manned"....but yes it will be in a continual state of "overmanning" as that fleet draws down over the next 6-7 years, but then again there should be 757 vacancy bids over the same time period as that jet ramps up.
....or they fill the 757 with excessed WB Capts and FOs looking to stay in MEM.
....or they fill the 757 with excessed WB Capts and FOs looking to stay in MEM.
It is instrumental to our collective financial futures that we win these grievances.
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