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Originally Posted by pinseeker
If the higher profile flights you are talking about are the STN,KIX,FRA,CDG,CGN/MEM flights, you are mixing apples and oranges. Those flights consist of one leg that exceeds 8 hours of block. The west coast flights are two different duty periods which combine to go over 8 in 24. Unless you have figured out how to bend space, KIX/MEM is never going to be under 8 hours block. Again, the west coast flights are fixable, the others are not. It's sad to see a pilot side with the company on this one.
Siding with reason, not the company. Can you turn into or out of STN,KIX,CDG,VCP,CGN/MEM? On the inbound leg to MEM where do you get your 16ish hours of rest, regardless of # of duty periods? 8n24 is defined by >8hrs of block over a sliding 24hr period, regardless of how many duty periods that 24hrs contains, right? What if you live in SEA,OAK,SJC,SFO? What if you live in MEM and fly STN,VCP,etc. lines, your 8n24 rest is always on your own time. How many more subjective qualifiers can we add. All that said, HARD PARAMETERS! So that DPs can be reserved for safety and fatigue design pairings (which normally they are), not just inconvenient ones.