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Old 04-05-2023 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactivity
That will never happen.

1. They don't fly nearly enough to justify it. The minimum guarantee is what it is because it's the high end of what you can reasonably expect to fly in a bid period.
2. The ABX guarantee was adjusted to 65 in the last contract to bring the ABX and ATI pay scales to parity at 780 hours per year. ATI pays 60 x 13, and ABX 65 x 12. The hourly rates are the same between the two. This was intentional on the part of ATSG.

You can argue for a higher rate, which is what they're doing currently in negotiations, and it's also precisely where negotiations have hung up.
16 days of your life spent on the road away from family and friends; at lovely AMZ destinations (hampton inn) for 60 hours of pay is unsustainable.
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Old 04-05-2023 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex11incheSteel
16 days of your life spent on the road away from family and friends; at lovely AMZ destinations (hampton inn) for 60 hours of pay is unsustainable.
"Unsustainable" - OK. Pretty sure ATI has been sustaining 60 hours going places that are considerably less appealing than Rockford for many years now. Never mind that Kalitta and Atlas both guarantee 64 hours per month, ABX is 65, and it seems to me Amerijet is about the same, as is 21 Air. Within ACMI, which is the only place it makes sense to make comparisons, you're looking at around 780 hours per year.

The number on your paycheck is what it is. Whether you understand it or not, that is what was negotiated. If you had negotiated for a higher guarantee, the hourly rate would have been adjusted to make the number at the end come out the same. That's what the company cares about - what you cost, not how it's accounted for. (Although as I previously stated, the company is unlikely to set a guarantee the differs significantly from the amount you're likely to fly, and it benefits you nothing to do so.) So with that in mind, why do you care whether your monthly pay is divided into 60 pieces or 72 pieces?
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Old 04-06-2023 | 07:57 PM
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Hey hey hey, what do you mean less appealing than Rockford? is that even possible
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Old 04-06-2023 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJJ
Hey hey hey, what do you mean less appealing than Rockford? is that even possible
Hush, Rockford, the Riviera of the North, is awesome!
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Old 02-19-2025 | 08:23 PM
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Does anyone have an Air Transport International interview gauge, please?
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Old 02-19-2025 | 10:58 PM
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Right here-
Beginning your career? DO NOT target ATI - Airline Pilot Central Forums
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Old 02-20-2025 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ES111
Does anyone have an Air Transport International interview gauge, please?
Try AviationInterviews.com. That site helped for Atlas. Just be cautious of wrong answers and look up references to double check. There are at least 3 recent posts from this year. The small fee charged to access ATI and a few other airline gouge's may well be worth paying.
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Old 05-18-2025 | 12:00 PM
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Anyone know what upgrade time is?
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Old 05-19-2025 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr8mutt
Anyone know what upgrade time is?

They have been doing forced upgrades recently, so pretty much as soon as you have the hour requirements.
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Old 05-19-2025 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8mutt
Anyone know what upgrade time is?
There were FOs who put it for it on the last vacancy and didn’t get it. It went pretty senior. People are still leaving though, and 40% of the CAs retire in the next 10 years so movement is still happening. Upgrades are probably within 1 year but could start going senior soon.
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