ATI interview gouge
#52
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Keep in mind that ATI bids on a 13 month annual cycle (28 day/cycle). As I recall, they bid 2 cycles at a single bid....or easier stated a 56 day bid. I'm sure active ATI'er can state further if you really have questions.
#55
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From: FO 75/767
Is the training footprint difficult? Is it something that a 1500 hour guy can pass with a good attitude and good studying? Is the training now being changed and tailored more towards the 1500 hr guys coming in, so that they can pass?
With the regionals not hiring, ACMI or the LCC's and ULCC's might be some of our only chance forward right now.
With the regionals not hiring, ACMI or the LCC's and ULCC's might be some of our only chance forward right now.
All that said, what I will tell you is that I have many good friends who are Captains there still. Remember that Captains generally don’t mind helping and guiding a new hire but, they are not flight instructors and most of them are being ran so hard they do not have the patience to deal with extreme inexperience. I must admit that my last few months before I left last year, my tolerance for the inexperience was getting pretty low. That was actually one of many reasons why I chose to leave simply because I realized that the job was becoming too risky for me and it was turning me into the Captain I always said I never wanted to be.
Last thing I will tell you, it is a Part 121 job, so if you go into training and come out with a failure or multiple failures, you will be explaining that to any and all of your future employers down the road.
Just something’s to think about. Good luck!
Last edited by flyboy730; 04-02-2023 at 10:13 PM.
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Is the training footprint difficult? Is it something that a 1500 hour guy can pass with a good attitude and good studying? Is the training now being changed and tailored more towards the 1500 hr guys coming in, so that they can pass?
With the regionals not hiring, ACMI or the LCC's and ULCC's might be some of our only chance forward right now.
With the regionals not hiring, ACMI or the LCC's and ULCC's might be some of our only chance forward right now.
https://www.airtransport.cc/news/air...silver-airways
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They started a new pathway program with Silver this year, so there will be pilots coming in that haven't flown a jet. There will have to be some training adjustment. And they aren't AQP for initial at the moment.
https://www.airtransport.cc/news/air...silver-airways
https://www.airtransport.cc/news/air...silver-airways
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Have you rode in the back of any Southwest flight lately? lol Seems like a softer landing is a rare thing. But boxes won't complain....
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1. They don't fly nearly enough to justify it. The minimum guarantee is what it is because it's the high end of what you can reasonably expect to fly in a bid period.
2. The ABX guarantee was adjusted to 65 in the last contract to bring the ABX and ATI pay scales to parity at 780 hours per year. ATI pays 60 x 13, and ABX 65 x 12. The hourly rates are the same between the two. This was intentional on the part of ATSG.
You can argue for a higher rate, which is what they're doing currently in negotiations, and it's also precisely where negotiations have hung up.
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