I don't have a problem with carryover. It has become an issue lately due to 4.a.2.b and large differences in credit hours between fleets/seats. I don't think 4.a.2.b will be around in it's current form when we sign our next contract.

I am strongly AGAINST a cap system. I previously worked for a legacy airline with a cap. One of the things I like about FDX is that you can almost work seasonally. If you like skiing, you can almost take the winter off. If you have kids that play a sport (football?), you can take the fall off. You get the point. You can work a little harder during other parts of the year to make up for periods of time when you want to do other things. If you can get vacation during these periods, that helps with a little cash flow.

I drop a lot of trips and have a large make up bank (almost 900 hours). I don't think I will ever come close to making it up, but I should be able to if I want.

I don't have a problem with carryover, but if it went away, I wouldn't really care. I wouldn't vote for any contract that has a monthly cap.

 

I'm not senior enough to hold c/o on a regular basis. Although I sometimes get a 6 hr c/o trip. The biggest problem I have with carryover is that those carryover hours are not accounted for in that months flying. If they were accounted for, then the average BLG would increase for that month. If the BLG increases, so too, would the RLG's. I agree the numbers aren't "significant," but they do represent an increase. I have submitted this in contract surveys and to the powers that be. Hopefully, the current NC will entertain this idea.

 

Carryover does not fall into any month's line average calculation.

It leaves a big hole the first week of the month. Trips in other weeks end up on fewer lines to get the line average back up. If the number of lines is not reduced the average just goes down.

Now is not the time to return to normal carryover. When we exit 4a2b they can do that.

 

Straight pay for overtime is stupid. Spin it anyway you want but you are giving up money, numbers below you, or both for the "opportunity" to work overtime. Dumb.

Before people respond with the inevitable "don't bid it", consider that whether one bids it or not it affects you. Additionally, I have gotten it on a few occasions when I didn't want it because it was part of a line that had the requisite dates off.

Carryover should go.

PIPE

 

You should look at the 727 June bid Pack. C/O has returned to its pre 4A2b norm.

Good point the >800 hours of July C/O in the 727 bidpack would be >6 hours more for average blg and at least 6.0 for RLG in the July bidpack.

 

IMO there should no limit to how much you can earn, low or high. Carryover does this nicely. It provides schedule flexibility or the opportunity to earn extra money. The idea that it's "overtime flying at straight pay" is ludicrous when our guarantees do not even approach a normal 'full-time' number. 68 hours a month is far too low. The senior versus junior argument is equally ludricrous. Everybody wants to be senior. It is just the way our antiquated system works.

Any LOA or TA proposal that includes a cap would be an automatic no from me. I will not tell someone else how much they must earn in the interest of some imagined fairness between junior and senior employees.

 

So in your opinion should we dump the 13 hour limit between high and low lines?

 

Yah, I know...It magically started appearing back in all bidpacks, when SAM/BUV was instituted fleetwide.

 

Are you familiar with the old Delta green sheet system? They had a cap...But, no limit to how much you could earn each month. It could be tweaked to work here, as well.

 

I am not in favor of a cap in "normal" times either. But it is interesting that you "won't tell someone else how much they must earn in the interest of some imagined fairness..., if that sentiment was instituted in earnest back in Feb '09, the senior guys would have kept their earnings and the junior guys would have been furloughed.

I'm not even remotely suggesting that that route should have even been considered, but the sentimental notion that we brethren should live and work by a code that lifts all our boats is what sets us apart. Otherwise, some of us would be a lot better off and a few of us would have lost our houses.

Just Sayin'.