FDX Section 6 Openers
08-14-2010 | 02:45 PM
#71
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Explain this one. The credit for service has not been taken away, yet. How does this have anything to do with Age 65, years of service is years of service? You retire, then they multiply the multiplier times you years of service regardless of retirement age. This is an attempt by the company to deny some credit for their service while getting the added benefit of turning pilots against pilots (those that it affects vs those that it does not).
08-14-2010 | 02:52 PM
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From: Airbus F/O
Actually I think their intent is for back end dead heads. Front ends you already have the check in requirements that pretty much require you to have a legal crew rest upon arriving in the the operating city. I think their intent is to get rid of guys getting 4 or 5 hours or less of rest before their first class ticket because of duty day.
08-14-2010 | 05:13 PM
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Difference between a first class ticket and coach.
Without being able to get a first class ticket because of duty day length (i.e. You operate to MSP. Scheduled dh is for 12 hours later, thus a coach ticket. But you hub turned into the trip, go to the hotel for just a few hours and then deviate on a flight without a legal crew rest. Your duty day qualifies for a first class ticket. Your deviation duty day exceeds 16 hours. Company couldn't have "scheduled" that dh.) With new rule you would have to buy a coach ticket more than likely. Chances are some people wouldn't be able to spend their entire bank as easily.
08-14-2010 | 06:06 PM
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This is obviously geared toward our new VP Ops (training, standards and safety) who is checked out in the 757 but can only fly part 91. Sadly, as we have seen in the past, any chink in the armor gets exploited to the fullest. However, if EVERY time they do it, they bump, with pay, a non- management line Capt and First Officer, what's the down side? I'm sure there is one and someone will be happy to point it out to me but two non-management pilots staying home with pay would be a good deal. The language would have to be very tight to prevent them from going around the intent, for example: trip would have to be a bid pack trip, awarded on a line to non LCA, flex, salary or pay only guys and cannot be picked up out of open time due to drop, sick etc. I'm sure there's more.
08-14-2010 | 06:09 PM
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08-14-2010 | 06:10 PM
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08-14-2010 | 06:26 PM
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The more I think about it.....
If we think they won't exploit hiring non-seniority holders and flood our cockpits and sims with them we will be kidding ourselves.
It was upper crust that hired JG and that's great, I hear he's a great guy. But he IS A MANAGER, not a pilot. It's not up to us to make sure he gets IOE in the MD11. The company knew the rules when they hired him.
I say, take an empty MD11 or a humanitarian charter under part 91 and give him some landings. Beyond that I say NO to non-seniority pilots flying revenue flying. It's a pandoras box that we can't afford to open. The company lost my trust with 4a2b.
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