TonyHaus

BB,

You are very correct. There were many honorable men in the FPA. In fact almost all of our committee workers were awesome. Many members on the BOD were also excellent and hard working as well. I wish we had George S right now as well. The parking lot deal was done by a very few people at the top in secrecy. That should not in any way impugn the many hard working committee members of all our committees who did so much to further our cause. My hat is off the folks of nego, comm, spc, R&I, Safety, Jumpseats, Scope, Family Awareness and the many others who built something from nothing. We need to be able to appreciate their effort without reservation. For those that were responsible for the parking lot deal, they have already faced enough recrimination. I don't see the value of beating them up again.

jagplt

"He quietly changed the officer work rules so he could stay at home and still get the 105 credit hours of pay while he telecommutes but never mentioned that us."


What I want to know is how they managed to pull that off. If he wants to be Chairman of the MEC... come to work and show the flag.. How can I get a copy of the office day's the Officers work?

Next question.. how do we change it back!??

TonyHaus

To change it back you will need to call your block rep and tell him to. If I get elected, you will have my vote already. The pay was designed to have 2 officers in the office at all times. It was based on officers working 3 out 4 weeks in a 4 week bid month and 4 out of 5 in a 5 week bid month- monday thru friday 9 to 5. Scott has altered it so they commute in on monday am jumpseat and leave on friday pm jumpseat. So monday morning or friday afternoon, no officers are home. Except, to cover their butts they just started bringing in a duty officer (last week cory franklin)to cover them while they commute. Then Scott has given himself 2 more day per week that he is allowed to work from home. All with no reduction in pay and no regard to manning the office daily with 2 offcers. Let me tell you that for 8 years prior to Scott that was not the case. No telecommuting days and mandatory days in the office for 2 officers for the pay. The duty officer (bringing in a block rep to cover) idea was designed for times when 2 officers might have over-lapping vacation or when 1 officer got called to a meeting in DC with the FAA, ALPA National or the like and that only left 1 back at the office. It was never intended to cover officers who just can't make it to work.

Gunter

I know we could argue the merits of the last TA forever but that seems to be a cornerstone of your dislike of the MEC Chair. Clearing up your point would help me understand your position.

2 reps said it shouldn't be sent out to the membership for a vote. I'm thinking you agree with them. The pay raise with the CGN LOA was much better than getting squat for giving the company HKG and CDG. I have to give SS a nod compared to DW's effort. If DW was hoping to get a higher 777 pay rate he should have held up the FDA LOA for it. But he didn't.

What was the biggest issue in the TA for you? Specifically, what would have made it good enough for you to offer it to the membership?

Is this all about officer pay? Quite frankly, I've seen some real losers hanging around the office to make sure they looked busy. This was usually encouraged by an even bigger loser boss. It was more important to occupy the desk than to be good. I've seen others spend less time in the office and accomplish more. Ever hear of the term "Practicing Bleeding"?

How exactly would you force the company to compensate us for 4a2b? We were at a standstill and took it to arbitration. Didn't do any good. How much higher can you take it?

2cylinderdriver

Tony not sure where you got your info (like 98 hours not 105 among other wrong things), but the Policy Manuals (local and national) have everything laid out with respect to Officer pay and work rules. I am pretty sure you are mistaken that SS, all alone, made policy manual changes and unilateral changes to working conditions. The pay for an Officer job is underwhelming at best, the job never "blocks in". The alternative of being a very senior WB Captain is WAY better than any of these full time ALPA jobs.

As to your CBA conspiracy theory, sounds like you are reciting the JG campaign email. All fairy tales, but you can believe what you want but truth has little place in politics. If ANY MEC Member truly "did not Know" that negotiating committee, oops I mean SS was bargaining a secret contract extension then you might want to find out that info from said MEC member(s) and ask why the did not act. After you remedy that rumor then you can get in Office and get remuneration for 4a2b??? Seriously? We lost, and should not forget, but if that is your idea of leadership, thinking you can stand tough and watch that freight train run you over, best of luck.

from the ALPA manuals, not changed by SS, as far as I know.

MEC officers assigned to full-time duty with the Association shall be governed by the
following policies.
a. Work
(1) Fifteen (15) office days are required for a 4-week month.
(2) Nineteen (19) office days are required for a 5-week month.
(3) Weekends do not count as office days unless actually worked.
(4) Union business out of the office (out of town) counts as a day for a day.
(5) AFB trips count as workdays.
(6) PDO trips do not count as workdays unless required for currency.
(7) When all three officers are on full-time duty with the Association, to the
maximum extent possible, the officers will coordinate their schedules to
ensure that at least two officers are scheduled to be in the FDX MEC office at
all times.
(8) To earn a “work day” credit, the officer must be at the office for at least five
hours of that day, or the required commute to/from his home of record
exceeds five hours, or performs assigned union work while at his home of
record a minimum of six hours in a day. Workdays computed under these
guidelines would be limited to two (2) days in a four-week month and three
(3) days in a five-week month. The assigned work at his home of record
would have to be approved by the two other officers. These days would be
reviewed and accounted for by the FOC in their semi-annual report.
(9) The Financial Oversight Committee (FOC) will forward to the MEC a semiannual
“look back” report covering officer travel, vacation, AFB/PDO, sick
activity, MEC expenses and other issues as required.

Flight Pay Loss and Override
(1) Officers will bid in a pay only status.
(2) Officers will be compensated at the rate of ninety-eight (98) CHs per month,
calculated in accordance with Section 60.M.2. b. (4). of ALPA policy, the
MEC having determined that this compensation falls within the parameters of
this ALPA policy. This compensation will be based on the bid status of the
MEC officer.
(3) Carryover will not be considered or paid for any pay only line bid.
(4) Officers will receive an override of:
MEC Chairman $1,500.00/month
MEC Vice Chairman $1,350.00/month
MEC Secretary/Treasurer $1,250.00/month

4A2B

Could it be that the policy manual requires, if able, 2 Officers in the Office and the MEC just slayed the Vice Chair?, for no good reason. So they are left with less than adequate coverage? I am sure BM will ensure that the office is covered and be a rabid watch dog over the abuses and indiscretions that have been perpetrated by our MEC Chair. Good on you TonyHaus, if not for rocket surgeons like you, this Union would be corrupt. I hope you get elected and we can see the "change" you will bring to the Union Haus.

AerisArmis

He shoots, he misses! Henchmen? You were talking about false accusations I believe? I'm just a dues paying member watching the union political intrigue with interest (from the outside). If your post is an example of the demeanor you will bring to the table, heaven help us.

MD11Fr8Dog

I believe there are 2 others in the running for Block 4 - J.N. and E.I. formerly the SFS Rep.

MaydayMark

E.I. has demonstrated that he has the backbone to stand up to the MEC "Group Think" mentality. That gets extra gold stars in my book. I hope he gets elected ...

TonyHaus

Scott,

The 105 credit hours is, as you know, from taking the 98 and then adding in the override. The override is paid via the company and converted into credit hours for pay purposes. The effect is about 105 hours give or take. But you know that right? Why can't you guys just run an honest campaign? Let me guess, you did all that research below to dig out policy manual information because you are just a line pilot who is curious to know? By the way, the officer pay of 103-105 credit hours (depending on if you are sec/treas, vice or chair) is plenty. It is not a trifling thing and work ethic should go along with it.