FDX--More rumors of 767
08-02-2011, 06:04 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by The Walrus
No worries Fdelta, just frustrated with the majority here as a whole who still use the "they bid it without a pay rate" mentality. The 777 has been here going on three years now, and many of those currently rated on it bid it knowing that we had been screwed by the company, as well as the early bidders. Bottom line is it is a legitimate airframe at fedex and should not continue to have the scarlet letter attached for the previous actions of a small percentage of pilots.
The next bid after that ruling closed in April of 2011.
The last crews to train from any previous postings (before the arbitrator ruled) were trained in late Spring/early Summer of 2011 (May 2011?)
So, I think your data is a little skewed.
There are VERY FEW pilots who are "currently rated on it" that bid it "knowing that we had been screwed..."
in fact - almost 100% of the pilots "currently rated on it" bid it before the arbitrator ruled.
just sayin'
08-02-2011, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MX727
Trying to find the article I saw which stated that the 767-400 has longer main gear to accommodate the bigger engines. That in turn makes it an uphill push for the cans, just like the -330.
I think I read the A330F has a modified nose gear (and modified nose wheel well) to fix this problem. Notice that the A330F has a "blister" of sorts around the nose gear wheel well ...
Photos: Airbus A330-243F Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
08-02-2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FDX28
If they use Boeing's cockpit, it would require differences training - type rating is the same.
08-02-2011, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I think I read the A330F has a modified nose gear (and modified nose wheel well) to fix this problem. Notice that the A330F has a "blister" of sorts around the nose gear wheel well ...
Photos: Airbus A330-243F Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Photos: Airbus A330-243F Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
The 767-400ER also has longer gear and uses the 777 wheels on the mains. Then there are the can issues with the 767.
In any case, we should know soon. Then we just have to wait for them to change their minds a few times.
08-02-2011, 10:57 AM
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I had heard that these 400's were new ones from the factory.... don't know if it's the SC or WA factory..... and that the can issue was already addressed since it's a new jet right off the production line. I had heard no dual type rating, a max cargo weight of 110K lbs, and they are not the ER version.
Apparently, the tooling and dyes are available immediately because of the new USAF tanker which is based on the 767. Hence, Boeing can gin up the production line and build x number of them before they have to start producing them for the USAF.
At least that's what the bus driver on bus #363 said last week.... oh and one of the jumpseat lady's said that the 330 had the same wingspan as the 777 and that it would not physically fit on some of our domestic ramps.
Apparently, the tooling and dyes are available immediately because of the new USAF tanker which is based on the 767. Hence, Boeing can gin up the production line and build x number of them before they have to start producing them for the USAF.
At least that's what the bus driver on bus #363 said last week.... oh and one of the jumpseat lady's said that the 330 had the same wingspan as the 777 and that it would not physically fit on some of our domestic ramps.
08-03-2011, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PastV1
Part of the problem i heard is that Boeing will not put our aftermarket 757 cockpit in the 767. One opinion was to get all upcoming 757's with the 767 cockpit and just redo the 757's that we have on property already.
08-03-2011, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FDX28
Boeing has their cockpit, IS&S has their 757/767 cockpit. We can do either. IS&S would just take another stop before delivery.
Last edited by FDXLAG; 08-03-2011 at 11:04 PM.
08-05-2011, 09:55 AM
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I'll bet on the bait n switch
My money is on the A330-F. Airbus got burnt by Boeing when fred (and later UPS) dumped the A380 for the B777. I'll guess that the French would love to return the favor by stealing the 767 deal. We have an Airbus presence at FDX now...sims, pilots, AQP, can't believe Tolouse would just kiss us goodbye...just sayin'.
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