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Old 12-29-2011, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckydawg View Post
Jungle said the same thing about TCAS.

Who put this guy in here as a moderator? Only NURPS apply?
Well, given one of the founders of the site, anything goes apparently.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:15 AM
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Only time and money will tell. You have already lost, now you want to throw more money down the same rathole?

Legal action against government and/or its agencies has a very low probability of success.
If you assume no one gets hurts between now and court, it may very well die on the vine. Kinda hard to prove wrong doing without injury.

But if this effort helps to hammer politicians for their hypocrisy and unethical behavior, we may may see something change. I believe the threat of bad press is far stronger than lobbying dollars from pilots.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
That's not the end of the payout, much of which will be sealed with non-disclosures. Point is the govermnent is not invincible, and occasionally the right thing happens. And in this case I think it's a chess move for IPA, not checkers. No doubt you would have counselled the IPA to just give up in the beginning...insurmountable odds in your myopic vision no doubt against UPS. Yet effective 1/1 we're the highest paid group in the industry.

Now back to your regularly scheduled all knowing.
The IPA has never made a gross blunder before, there can be no doubt.

UPS has made its share of blunders too.

I would only ask, how did UPS support the highest pay in the industry?
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
Well, given one of the founders of the site, anything goes apparently.
Temper, temper Bob, why can't we just talk without all the theatrics?
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:21 AM
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The IPA has never made a gross blunder before, there can be no doubt.

Nor UPS for that matter...another pointless point. Par for the course...sigh.

I would only ask, how did UPS support the highest pay in the industry?
Not the point Nostradamus...when the IPA was formed, and the profit margins were still very high, captains made $60/hour. If not for IPA we MIGHT be making what Jet Blue does.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:22 AM
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It would be nice to know exactly what I'm fighting for in regards to the new rest rules. Pilots love to talk about safety, but what most of them are hoping for is more pilots underneath them, or less work for the same money. ( Good luck with that ) What will this do to my quality of life and our trip models. Are we looking at 3 on 3 off domestic night trips, Asian domiciles, what???
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:23 AM
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Temper, temper Bob, why can't we just talk without all the theatrics?
The guy threatens witholding jumpseats when his little feelings get hurt for Allah's sake. Talk about theater.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter View Post
If you assume no one gets hurts between now and court, it may very well die on the vine. Kinda hard to prove wrong doing without injury.

But if this effort helps to hammer politicians for their hypocrisy and unethical behavior, we may may see something change. I believe the threat of bad press is far stronger than lobbying dollars from pilots.
There is a lot of truth in your statement.
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:28 AM
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The guy threatens witholding jumpseats when his little feelings get hurt for Allah's sake. Talk about theater.
Sorry Bob, I have never denied a jumpseat in my life, you are certainly welcome to lie all you like though, it just makes you look bad.
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Sorry Bob, I have never denied a jumpseat in my life, you are certainly welcome to lie all you like though, it just makes you look bad.
I'm not talking about you....a bit sensitive aren't we?
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