Cappy Parking 727s Next Month?
01-24-2013, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
That or we can un-mothball 722CX 
01-24-2013, 09:45 AM
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01-24-2013, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by b707guy
Jeez, NCR, way to steal my thunder! 
Honestly, your great post above wasn't there when I signed on. (nice job in doing so, though, I must admit!)
Honestly, your great post above wasn't there when I signed on. (nice job in doing so, though, I must admit!)
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01-24-2013, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
AFAIK, the plan right now is to not put IS&S panels into these aircraft. Instead they will all be the EADI/EHSI (Fast/Slow I guess) displays. However, they all will be upgraded to the PEGASUS FMC and maybe the MCDU which should include GPS MMRs (think 712AX). This would allow for one worldwide navdatabase instead of what is currently done with the 767s.
I wonder why no IS&S? Does the install not play well with the PEGASUS FMC/GPS?? Or are they cheaping out. Or is the STC just for the 767's???
01-24-2013, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyAstarJets
Thanks Dxr (and b707Guy)
I wonder why no IS&S? Does the install not play well with the PEGASUS FMC/GPS?? Or are they cheaping out. Or is the STC just for the 767's???
I wonder why no IS&S? Does the install not play well with the PEGASUS FMC/GPS?? Or are they cheaping out. Or is the STC just for the 767's???
I could be wrong but I've only heard about the PEG upgrade so far. Changing out databases is not an option because the airplane could be in FHAW one week and PKMJ the next. Plus these airplanes are kinda old relatively speaking.
01-24-2013, 03:16 PM
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"I'd guess ABX owns none of theirs, either. What better way to manipulate cash flow accounting"
Not on paper but according to the PBGC the 33-34ish 767's belong to ABX....transferring assets to a leasing/holding company for tax purposes is not that unusual....look at the registration on the 9 DHL owned 767's (5 Pratt flown by ATLAS, 4 GE flown by ABX) currently in the US domestic system...they all are registered to Wells Fargo Leasing...all smoke and mirror's....ATSG owns ABX, CAM and the aircraft
Not on paper but according to the PBGC the 33-34ish 767's belong to ABX....transferring assets to a leasing/holding company for tax purposes is not that unusual....look at the registration on the 9 DHL owned 767's (5 Pratt flown by ATLAS, 4 GE flown by ABX) currently in the US domestic system...they all are registered to Wells Fargo Leasing...all smoke and mirror's....ATSG owns ABX, CAM and the aircraft
01-24-2013, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
AFAIK, the plan right now is to not put IS&S panels into these aircraft. Instead they will all be the EADI/EHSI (Fast/Slow I guess) displays. However, they all will be upgraded to the PEGASUS FMC and maybe the MCDU which should include GPS MMRs (think 712AX). This would allow for one worldwide navdatabase instead of what is currently done with the 767s.
By the way here is Cappy's fourth 757.....
N557CM - The Boeing 757 Website - 23687/0106
Which a/c are not going to get the Is&S pnales you say? At least the one in the hangar I saw last week in ILN had the IS&S panels.
01-24-2013, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
No worries
I guess we now know where 791AX is really going. I'm really starting to call bologna on Jakarta at this point. I bet 796AX goes back to ABX too when it comes home from Rio.
I guess we now know where 791AX is really going. I'm really starting to call bologna on Jakarta at this point. I bet 796AX goes back to ABX too when it comes home from Rio.
01-24-2013, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NCR757dxr
I'd say cheapening out for the moment to get them flying. The STC is for the 757 as well (AA has some 757s with the panels) and its fine with the PEG stuff.
I could be wrong but I've only heard about the PEG upgrade so far. Changing out databases is not an option because the airplane could be in FHAW one week and PKMJ the next. Plus these airplanes are kinda old relatively speaking.
I could be wrong but I've only heard about the PEG upgrade so far. Changing out databases is not an option because the airplane could be in FHAW one week and PKMJ the next. Plus these airplanes are kinda old relatively speaking.
The combi in ILN right now has IS&S.
01-24-2013, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ATIPilot
791AX is coming to ATI. It's going through conformity in ILN. JV said so last week unless this changed in the last 4 days.
Originally Posted by ATIPilot
I heard that IS&S has an upgrade that allows for a WorldWide database without Pegasus. It's way more affordable.
The combi in ILN right now has IS&S.
The combi in ILN right now has IS&S.
All of these 757s (including 556CM) have been doing a TON of sitting over the last 2-3, so they could have slipped in the upgrade during that time. Thanks for the update. This is a smart move it they all are getting the upgrade. Fleet commonality is very hard with second hand 757s; just ask FedEx.
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