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Old 09-24-2013 | 01:53 PM
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In another venue it was suggested that hats would be a good way to indicate support of our NC.

Should be possible even for the group of folks who choose non-ALPA lanyards
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Old 09-24-2013 | 02:07 PM
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Anybody needs a tinfoil hat can PM me. I still have the one left behind by our old friend, Guy Cobb, who is as famous as Runway 27.
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Old 09-24-2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
In another venue it was suggested that hats would be a good way to indicate support of our NC.
Pilots don't like to wear hats ... it messes up their hair
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Old 09-24-2013 | 02:35 PM
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Anybody needs a tinfoil hat can PM me. I still have the one left behind by our old friend, Guy Cobb, who is as famous as Runway 27.
Oh my.......Vagabond.....a Tinfoil hat?????? Really? I think the OP was being serious. I have a Hat. It's a Capt's Hat....(used to be one here before a Royal 4A2B Horse Whipping). I will wear it in support of all NC efforts. Hope the CP finds me and says I am out uniform as he did to an F/O at a recent ceremony for a deceased pilot. The supporting F/O had never owned a Blazer, but bought one to wear at his Buddys Memorial. He couldn't find his original wings but wore the mandatory Blazer (Short notice, Sans wings) anyway to try and support his Buddys Family. Long story short, CP finds him in the crowd, tells him he is out of uniform (in front of everyone including non-Company pilots), then proceeds to procure a set of Capt's wings and insist on a public "winging" (so much for honoring a fallen Crewmate) for the "out of uniform" F/O. At the end of the "Winging".....LOL ....said F/O is STILL out of uniform as the CP insisted on pinning Capt's wings on him. (You can't make this Sh"t up folks). Quote of the day?....CP.... "It was the best solution Available"......Hmmmm.....Out of uniform to......out of uniform........Just Culture my Patootie.
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Old 09-24-2013 | 02:37 PM
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Can we wear our USMC hat?
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Old 09-24-2013 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KnightFlyer

Can we wear our USMC hat?

That ties in perfectly with my first thought. I had this conversation with a jumpseater recently:
Are you in the Marine Corps?

No.

Why do you wear the Marine Corps lanyard instead of an ALPA lanyard.

I'm a Marine.

But you just said you're not in the Marine Corps.

Um, but, you're always a Marine, I mean, once a Marine ...

Are you not in ALPA?

Yes.

Then why aren't you wearing an ALPA lanyard?

I've got a beef with them ...
The balance of the conversation revealed that he was unhappy with ALPA - THEM - and would only wear an ALPA lanyard if ALPA - THEY - delivered a contract worthy of his approval.

I tried to explain that WE are ALPA ...

... that we show our support for [the Marine Corps, the Braves, the Eagles, or Civilians] by wearing a lanyard.

... that the Negotiating Committee asked us to show our support for them and the Negotiating Process by wearing an ALPA lanyard.

... that The Company watches every thing we do, and they see what lanyards are worn in the crew rooms.

... that the Negotiating Committee has no power save that which is supplied by a unified pilot force standing behind them.

... that it is a very disheartening experience for the Negotiating Committee, who has asked us to display our support with such a simple gesture, to walk into the crew room only to see such a rainbow of lanyards.




I've got a hat to wear, and a hat to lend. I'm ready. But are WE?






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Old 09-24-2013 | 03:25 PM
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I recently flew with a Captain who also "had a beef" with ALPA. He felt that ALPA had not fully supported him in a situation he had with management.

Funny, though, he had been wearing his ALPA lanyard before our conversation, and continued wearing it after as well - in spite of the "beef" he had with ALPA.

I guess some of us are trainable.
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Old 09-24-2013 | 03:40 PM
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I worked long and hard to become a major airline pilot. I'm proud of the path I took to get here, but I'm here now. I don't advertise what second-string, B-team I worked for at some previous time that got me here.

I'm proud of the legacy that ALPA has in ensuring our safety. Have any of you wearing a non-ALPA lanyard ever read Flying the Line?

The only signal I get from a guy wearing a non-ALPA lanyard is that they don't get it and they don't care.
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Old 09-24-2013 | 03:50 PM
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I saw a guy wearing 2 lanyards last week; ALPA and USMC! Gave him the thumbs up.
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Old 09-24-2013 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXFLYR
I worked long and hard to become a major airline pilot. I'm proud of the path I took to get here, but I'm here now. I don't advertise what second-string, B-team I worked for at some previous time that got me here.
I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to (indirectly) call the USMC the second-string, B-team. I'll let you clarify...
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