L'il J.Seinfeld

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I gave thousands to save your job. This is how you treat someone who sacrificed his family's security to help yours?

You really should move on. You can make six figures in year two at Delta and United from what I hear.

L'il J.Seinfeld

You, sir, spent 15 minutes at UPS 25 years ago and think it qualifies you to comment on the company today!! Amazing.

BrownClown

[QUOTE=L'il J.
The future for our pilot group is better now than at any point in the last five years.
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How do you figure that?


Front seat hating the company is pointless. [/QUOTE]

True. I hate them, but I don't let it run my life.

MeXC

One thing to take away from all of this: the douche is everywhere.

L'il J.Seinfeld

We haven't hired since 2007. When the recession hit we were overstaffed. The 3 man jets are gone. The Worldport consolidations are complete. They've squeezed every bit of efficiency from our network and schedules. We are truly as lean as we can get. We are certainly closer to recalls than at any point since they stopped.

L'il J.Seinfeld

I'll revise it and say 4 instead of 5 years.

Jetjok

Try a year, and Yes, that does qualify me to comment on UPS, as well as anyone else out there. You think that you've got to work at UPS to comment on it? Really?

And you need to read your posts, because you contradict yourself quite often. Here's your latest: "As a publicly traded company UPS is unable to keep people employed if it takes away from profits. It's a fiduciary responsibility." Then in your next breath you say: "The furloughees being mad that UPS is making billions is irrelevant. They'll be recalled when the boxes stop moving due to pilot shortages and not one moment sooner." Which is it? because any employee "takes away from profit", while at the same time, making billions sort of indicates that your company is doing quite well, thank you very much. But I guess it's OK for you to think that everything is peachy-keen, regardless of your furloughed brothers and sisters, because, hey, you've got yours. Very classy.

L'il J.Seinfeld

What part is confusing? When the boxes stop moving due to not enough pilots they will recall. When recalling pilots takes away from profits they won't do it. The problem at UPS is they promote from within to the point that in positions where they need an MBA they have Ali the former van driver.

I've only been at UPS for 9 years and in that time the company culture is vastly different. Sure you have the right to comment, but it's an entirely different experience than the year you spent here when I was in the 6th grade! The 2006 contract changed everything. Edgewood shuttle beats the trams with the hillbillies we used to ride. The sleep rooms are as designed and hoped for. The cafeteria sucks, but I plan accordingly. The planes, mechanics, and pilots I work with are top notch too. Then again I spent 5 deployments living in crapholes for Iraq and Afghnanistan. My biggest complaints are the FQS flying, captains flying right seat, and the recent mil leave position of UPS.

L'il J.Seinfeld

So Frontseat and some others say the job at UPS sucks and anyone looking for a job should stay clear. I say it's not so bad and people need to consider the economic environment of the last five years.

L'il J.Seinfeld

You mean both of them? And one was a chick.

Can't argue that. Very bad deal all the way around. How/why it is the way it is is beyond me. But like I said before, FQS flying is my big complaint. We as the IPA need to push it. After the "we have the cards" debacle I'm not sue how we do it.