Age 65 effect on FDX-UPS upgrades
02-02-2007, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I've heard this arguement from several guys that want to flt past 60 (either bacause of bad financial planning or the lack of a "life"). Well gramps ... I don't want to fly past 60! Your poor planning might require that I do and quite frankly, I don't appreciate.
I would prefer you enjoyed your retirement and spent time with your family.
Regards ... Mark
I would prefer you enjoyed your retirement and spent time with your family.
Regards ... Mark
02-02-2007, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I've heard this arguement from several guys that want to flt past 60 (either bacause of bad financial planning or the lack of a "life"). Well gramps ... I don't want to fly past 60! Your poor planning might require that I do and quite frankly, I don't appreciate.
I would prefer you enjoyed your retirement and spent time with your family.
Regards ... Mark
I would prefer you enjoyed your retirement and spent time with your family.
Regards ... Mark
I guess you just don't get it. I am (almost) retired, I just elect to continue to enjoy myself my way, not yours. As far as planning is concerned, believe me, I'm all set, thank you very much. The fact is that I enjoy the work: seeing old (and young) friends, that my seniority allows me to visit each month; playing ball on layovers; not doing much nighttime flying; working on my frequent flier program; etc, etc. Once you've paid off the mortgage, found peace with your spouse (if that's possible
); enjoy the places you go and the things you do, you are there! Retirement would just make my life a duller, more mundane, place to be. Fact is, I do the same things on the road as I do at home, the only difference is I don't get to sleep in my own bed. A small price to pay.When it becomes your time to retire, try to remember these discussions and your arguments and see if they hold water then. Until then, how about a nice big cup of ****.
02-02-2007, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Mark,
I guess you just don't get it. I am (almost) retired, I just elect to continue to enjoy myself my way, not yours. As far as planning is concerned, believe me, I'm all set, thank you very much. The fact is that I enjoy the work: seeing old (and young) friends, that my seniority allows me to visit each month; playing ball on layovers; not doing much nighttime flying; working on my frequent flier program; etc, etc. Once you've paid off the mortgage, found peace with your spouse (if that's possible ); enjoy the places you go and the things you do, you are there! Retirement would just make my life a duller, more mundane, place to be. Fact is, I do the same things on the road as I do at home, the only difference is I don't get to sleep in my own bed. A small price to pay.
When it becomes your time to retire, try to remember these discussions and your arguments and see if they hold water then. Until then, how about a nice big cup of ****.
I guess you just don't get it. I am (almost) retired, I just elect to continue to enjoy myself my way, not yours. As far as planning is concerned, believe me, I'm all set, thank you very much. The fact is that I enjoy the work: seeing old (and young) friends, that my seniority allows me to visit each month; playing ball on layovers; not doing much nighttime flying; working on my frequent flier program; etc, etc. Once you've paid off the mortgage, found peace with your spouse (if that's possible
); enjoy the places you go and the things you do, you are there! Retirement would just make my life a duller, more mundane, place to be. Fact is, I do the same things on the road as I do at home, the only difference is I don't get to sleep in my own bed. A small price to pay.When it becomes your time to retire, try to remember these discussions and your arguments and see if they hold water then. Until then, how about a nice big cup of ****.
1. Very bad financial planning; can't afford to retire after a long successful aviation career. I feel sorry for those guys.
2. No hobbies; I'm sure I would rather enjoy my hobbies and family (another hobby) than fly all night. Don't have any hobbies? I feel sorry for the guys that can't appreciate that view of life.
3. Bad marriage; Would rather pour coffee at 0400 than sleep in the same bed with the wife. I feel sorry for those guys.
4. "I do the same things on the road as I do at home, the only difference is I don't get to sleep in my own bed." That's kind of pathetic. I really feel sorry for that guy.
5. And if **** is as good an arguement as you can come up with, that's kind of pathetic also. It might work in the nursing home with the senile old folks ... good luck with that.
And remember ... the only other seat in the airplane that sits sideways FLUSHES.
Regards,
Mark
02-02-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
I agree with your assessment that a captain with 25 years of service would make about as much in retirement as he would flying the back seat of the DC-10. However, what you (guys) fail to take into account is that if a 25 year captain does elect to move to the back of the 10 or 72, they are real, real, senior, and so, the trips that they fly are probably the best trips in the system. As well, believe it or not, sitting back there and watching you guys screw with LIDO, is amusement enough for this sailor.
Hey, after 16 years here, and 4 years in a widebody left seat, I moved to the back of the Boeing and am senior enough to get my 2nd or 3rd choice. It's almost like work, but different. It's sort of like being semi-retired. Very similar to a bunch of you guys who elect to sit in the back or right seat, for "quality of life." The even better thing is that if we get disgusted with how things are working out, we can just make a call and retire. In the meantime, I'm sorry that I'm holding all the 72 engineers back by one number, but life's that way. Get used to it. If the rule changes, I'll be more than glad to relinquish my s/o number of my MD-11 captain one. At least for another year or two.
Hey, after 16 years here, and 4 years in a widebody left seat, I moved to the back of the Boeing and am senior enough to get my 2nd or 3rd choice. It's almost like work, but different. It's sort of like being semi-retired. Very similar to a bunch of you guys who elect to sit in the back or right seat, for "quality of life." The even better thing is that if we get disgusted with how things are working out, we can just make a call and retire. In the meantime, I'm sorry that I'm holding all the 72 engineers back by one number, but life's that way. Get used to it. If the rule changes, I'll be more than glad to relinquish my s/o number of my MD-11 captain one. At least for another year or two.
02-02-2007, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
Sorry it Ain't gonna happen. There is no way the company is going to retrain a bunch of old guys to go back to the capt seat for a year or two. You might get some passover pay which should make you happy. It would make me happy if I could get MD-11 capt pay and carry the coffee jug.
02-02-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
If this rule change actually goes through, that's what the majority of people will think of you as well.
02-02-2007, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
Plus it helps all social systems, including social security because one would continue to pay income taxes at a higher percentage as well as amount.
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