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stickwiggler 02-22-2018 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2534210)
You Atlas folks just seem to have a way of having an answer for everything so I'm not going to even discuss it with you types further... but at least let us have this space to worry about our issues with our group. You don't see us bombarding your threads. The only thing your crowd has been successful in stoking is resentment in other groups within 1224. If that was your goal, job well done.

To the actual Omni folks... anyone have an idea of how today's session went? I believe this was intended to wrap up on the 23rd, so I would imagine there's a few more days before written information starts being communicated from the official sources.

Well said.

GunnerV 02-22-2018 06:17 AM

On the 1Q union telecon, DW alluded to the fact that a notification from our NC would be coming shortly. I haven't heard or seen anything yet.
Hopefully both sides come to an agreement today and tomorrow so we can begin to take advantage of the gains the NC has secured for us.

GunnerV 02-23-2018 07:50 PM

Any info from this week's meetings?

GraceMonth 02-23-2018 08:51 PM

I heard the company and the union made a deal.

aviatorhi 02-23-2018 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by GraceMonth (Post 2535732)
I heard the company and the union made a deal.

Exciting stuff. :D

Email just came out... we have an AIP. TA to come next week.

Hopefully it goes smoothly from here without interference from above.

wheresthefood 02-27-2018 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by GraceMonth (Post 2535732)
I heard the company and the union made a deal.

Please post it soon!!! I hope this doesn’t turn into the ATI thread about a TA with no numbers. 🙄

GraceMonth 02-27-2018 12:17 PM

I’m sure once they’re disclosed to the pilots someone will be around quickly enough to post them. Right now, the union says they’re working on language, which will be released to the pilots as a TA for voting in the coming weeks.

In short, pilots don’t yet have the official numbers, so there’s nothing to post.

aviatorhi 02-27-2018 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by GraceMonth (Post 2538657)
In short, pilots don’t yet have the official numbers, so there’s nothing to post.

I would bet it's safe to say that the numbers didn't decrease from the payscale the company posted on the infamous website. Roughly Kalitta DOS+1 to start for the hourly rate. No word at all on what they came up with for duty days, last we heard it was going to me a 16 on + 2 flexible + 4 callout days. It's also highly unlikely there will be any kind of rig. Improved travel (including business travel for most international legs), and hotel standards. The rest is a mystery in terms of where it came down.

All that is obviously speculation based on previously released information, but it's a general starting point for anyone on the outside who was interested in an idea of what we're going to be looking at.

GraceMonth 02-27-2018 05:57 PM

Well said, I completely agree. Thanks for taking the time to post it.

maxjet 03-01-2018 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2538697)
I would bet it's safe to say that the numbers didn't decrease from the payscale the company posted on the infamous website. Roughly Kalitta DOS+1 to start for the hourly rate. No word at all on what they came up with for duty days, last we heard it was going to me a 16 on + 2 flexible + 4 callout days. It's also highly unlikely there will be any kind of rig. Improved travel (including business travel for most international legs), and hotel standards. The rest is a mystery in terms of where it came down.

All that is obviously speculation based on previously released information, but it's a general starting point for anyone on the outside who was interested in an idea of what we're going to be looking at.

That is great news. I wish you well. I hear that after K4, overwhelming voted to leave that National, above Bourne got involved, and there were some come to Jesus meetings within the airline division. Will it last? Only time will tell.

I hope that this lack of interference continues. Since moving to ALPA, I am very impressed with their welcoming of our group and the amount of programs that they have for pilots. I am reading on our Web board that the 1224 loss of license insurance may in some cases be better than ALPA. Petersen has said that your policy is with them not 1224 and they will keep it in force as well as take on any new hires who want it. Best if both worlds is a nice thing.

The rest of the ALPA programs seem to be much better than Teamsters.


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