Swift Air - The truth
02-27-2019, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Toby Flenderson
If my sources are accurate, 5 CA's left in February and 5 Fo's. I believe two of those CA's were LCA.
One CA that left was a LCA, but said will remain day rate teaching sims. One trainee let go during training. Don’t recall anyone else leaving.
02-27-2019, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MNPS 50N50W
But did you also notice that there were 3 Captains names that were there ( MIAMI) in February, are no longer there in March. And rumer has it that another 2 Captains have class dates in March elsewhere. Not to mention that as soon as that other 737 startup in Miami gets going that initial 10 pilots will be Captains coming from Swift.
I am sure that Swift’s management is aware of this. But still refuses to do anything incentively to keep people here.
So we will loose 5 Captains, as we gain 5.
Then we will soon loose 10 Captains. Looks like they got us exactly where they want us. I an scratching my head to see how this works. Totally confused.
I am sure that Swift’s management is aware of this. But still refuses to do anything incentively to keep people here.
So we will loose 5 Captains, as we gain 5.
Then we will soon loose 10 Captains. Looks like they got us exactly where they want us. I an scratching my head to see how this works. Totally confused.
Already have an idea of who is trying to go and that’s good they can go! So many start ups in MIA. They come and go or never get off the ground. 36th Street Mafia.
Not even sure how some of these airlines stay afloat in MIA as long as they do. Been to MIA multiple times this month and amazed to see those eastern 767s collecting dust. 21airs 767 is sitting around too. Can’t make money sitting around.
02-28-2019, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mexipilot84
Heard it was a rumor coming wouldn’t be surprised. They’re bleeding money left to right.
02-28-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby Flenderson
Just confirmed it. They did lay-off bunch of people. It’s sad. Saw many enthusiastic flight attendants/pilots at PanAm training class. Any chance they’re trying to bring the 767 under Swift certificate? Thought they had massive business bid in China.
With the purchase of Swift don’t really have much if any associated with them. I think Woolley got bought out or became a super minority investor.
02-28-2019, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
So can you give us a quick rundown of what happened?
Didn’t Swift take over Eastern in their fire sale?
Then Dynamic applied for DOT permission to put 10 76’s on the empty Eastern certificate?
Didn’t Swift take over Eastern in their fire sale?
Then Dynamic applied for DOT permission to put 10 76’s on the empty Eastern certificate?
No they never took over eastern/dynamic. They used to have a common owner with Ken Woolley. Through the ownership swift had sent personnel to help manage their finances to help them get out of problems. They were surviving pretty much out of sub work we were giving them over the summer.
The eastern certificate never belonged to swift. It was Vincent Violas and he made a business deal with ken Woolley for the name. Swift just bought assets and contracts from defunct eastern 2. Pilots were allowed to interview and come to swift in the deal. 2 planes and about 12 pilots came over.
Not sure what they did there between viola and Woolley for the name, that’s how dynamic became eastern 3.
03-02-2019, 10:46 AM
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COPIED FROM OMNI THREAD.....
SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR, DOES IT NOT.
An HR manager was knocked down (tragically) by a bus and was killed. Her soul arrived at the Pearly Gates, where St.Peter welcomed her. “Before you get settled in” he said, “We have a little problem…you see, we’ve never had a HR manager make it this far before and we’re not really sure what to do with you.”
“Oh, I see,” said the woman, “can’t you just let me in?”
“Well, I’d like to,” said St Peter, “But I have higher orders. We’re instructed to let you have a day in hell and a day in heaven, and then you are to choose where you’d like to go for all eternity.”
“Actually, I think I’d prefer heaven”, said the woman. “Sorry, we have rules…” at which St. Peter put the HR manager into the downward bound elevator.
As the doors opened in Hell she stepped out onto a beautiful golf course. In the distance was a country club; around her were many friends, past fellow executives, all smartly dressed, happy, and cheering for her. They ran up and kissed her on both cheeks, and they talked about old times.
They played a perfect round of golf and afterwards went to the country club where she enjoyed a superb steak and lobster dinner. She met the Devil (who was actually rather nice) and she had a wonderful night telling jokes and dancing.
Before she knew it, it was time to leave. Everyone shook her hand and waved goodbye as she stepped into the elevator. The elevator went back up to heaven where St. Peter was waiting for her. “Now it’s time to spend a day in heaven,” he said.
So she spent the next 24 hours lounging around on clouds, playing the harp and singing; which was almost as enjoyable as her day in Hell. At the day’s end St. Peter returned. “So,” he said, “You’ve spent a day in hell and you’ve spent a day in heaven”. “You must choose between the two.”
The woman thought for a second and replied: “Well, heaven is certainly lovely, but I actually had a better time in hell. I choose Hell.”
Accordingly, St. Peter took her to the elevator again and she went back down to hell. When the doors of the elevator opened she found herself standing in a desolate wasteland covered in garbage and filth. She saw her friends dressed in rags, picking up rubbish and putting it in old sacks. The Devil approached and put his arm around her.
“I don’t understand,” stuttered the HR manager, “The other day I was here, and there was a golf course, and a country club. We ate lobster, and we danced and had a wonderful happy time. Now all there is, is just dirty wasteland of garbage and all my friends look miserable.”
The Devil simply looked at her and smiled, “Yesterday we were recruiting you, today you’re staff.”
SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR, DOES IT NOT.
An HR manager was knocked down (tragically) by a bus and was killed. Her soul arrived at the Pearly Gates, where St.Peter welcomed her. “Before you get settled in” he said, “We have a little problem…you see, we’ve never had a HR manager make it this far before and we’re not really sure what to do with you.”
“Oh, I see,” said the woman, “can’t you just let me in?”
“Well, I’d like to,” said St Peter, “But I have higher orders. We’re instructed to let you have a day in hell and a day in heaven, and then you are to choose where you’d like to go for all eternity.”
“Actually, I think I’d prefer heaven”, said the woman. “Sorry, we have rules…” at which St. Peter put the HR manager into the downward bound elevator.
As the doors opened in Hell she stepped out onto a beautiful golf course. In the distance was a country club; around her were many friends, past fellow executives, all smartly dressed, happy, and cheering for her. They ran up and kissed her on both cheeks, and they talked about old times.
They played a perfect round of golf and afterwards went to the country club where she enjoyed a superb steak and lobster dinner. She met the Devil (who was actually rather nice) and she had a wonderful night telling jokes and dancing.
Before she knew it, it was time to leave. Everyone shook her hand and waved goodbye as she stepped into the elevator. The elevator went back up to heaven where St. Peter was waiting for her. “Now it’s time to spend a day in heaven,” he said.
So she spent the next 24 hours lounging around on clouds, playing the harp and singing; which was almost as enjoyable as her day in Hell. At the day’s end St. Peter returned. “So,” he said, “You’ve spent a day in hell and you’ve spent a day in heaven”. “You must choose between the two.”
The woman thought for a second and replied: “Well, heaven is certainly lovely, but I actually had a better time in hell. I choose Hell.”
Accordingly, St. Peter took her to the elevator again and she went back down to hell. When the doors of the elevator opened she found herself standing in a desolate wasteland covered in garbage and filth. She saw her friends dressed in rags, picking up rubbish and putting it in old sacks. The Devil approached and put his arm around her.
“I don’t understand,” stuttered the HR manager, “The other day I was here, and there was a golf course, and a country club. We ate lobster, and we danced and had a wonderful happy time. Now all there is, is just dirty wasteland of garbage and all my friends look miserable.”
The Devil simply looked at her and smiled, “Yesterday we were recruiting you, today you’re staff.”
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