CommutAir Rumors and Info
11-17-2011, 05:28 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by PropDriver
Those training costs will be covered by Delta. Delta will also be covering the increased costs of our new contract. They will pay us in Q2 2012.
We are not going to be declaring bankruptcy any time soon.
We are not going to be declaring bankruptcy any time soon.
11-17-2011, 07:44 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by SLIbandit
Since when do you need cash to buy an airline? This is a modern business environment. Cash not required; only leveraged debt.
11-17-2011, 07:52 PM
#33
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Position: Upright
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Originally Posted by DirectTo
Sure, here's the "bulletin point summary" we all got, my comments in parenthesis:
• Higher Pay Rates - Most pilots will see a double digit percentage increase in rates! (from $21 to $23.39 for first year FOs)
• Block or Better Pay - On a leg by leg basis (definitely needed, they horribly underblock probably a third of our legs)
• Deadhead Pay - At 50%
• Premium Pay – 150% pay for reassignments and operations extensions (except they can run you until 2 AM on a day off with zero penalty and it's still a day off)
• Other new pay credits, including taxi movement and maintenance run-up pay (18 mins for taxi, 12 for gate run-up, 24 for off-gate run-up)
• Increase in Per Diem - From $1.25 to $1.45, a 16% increase
• Increase in Days Off – 14 to 15 more days off per year and NO “fake” days off! (also needed, when we do stand-ups/continuous duty overnights/high speeds the second day is listed as a day off on our schedule)
• Improved sick leave accrual and pay
• Commuter Policy (once per year, anything beyond that is an "occurance" with the company, and it only works if you have a "gauranteed" jumpseat, of which I don't know anyone besides FedEx who does, or 10% open seats, which as far as I know we can only check on CO/UA)
• Improvements in trip construction and quality of life - No more 7 leg days! (now just 6 leg days!)
• Cap on insurance premiums (basically the same as now)
• Higher Pay Rates - Most pilots will see a double digit percentage increase in rates! (from $21 to $23.39 for first year FOs)
• Block or Better Pay - On a leg by leg basis (definitely needed, they horribly underblock probably a third of our legs)
• Deadhead Pay - At 50%
• Premium Pay – 150% pay for reassignments and operations extensions (except they can run you until 2 AM on a day off with zero penalty and it's still a day off)
• Other new pay credits, including taxi movement and maintenance run-up pay (18 mins for taxi, 12 for gate run-up, 24 for off-gate run-up)
• Increase in Per Diem - From $1.25 to $1.45, a 16% increase
• Increase in Days Off – 14 to 15 more days off per year and NO “fake” days off! (also needed, when we do stand-ups/continuous duty overnights/high speeds the second day is listed as a day off on our schedule)
• Improved sick leave accrual and pay
• Commuter Policy (once per year, anything beyond that is an "occurance" with the company, and it only works if you have a "gauranteed" jumpseat, of which I don't know anyone besides FedEx who does, or 10% open seats, which as far as I know we can only check on CO/UA)
• Improvements in trip construction and quality of life - No more 7 leg days! (now just 6 leg days!)
• Cap on insurance premiums (basically the same as now)
11-17-2011, 08:31 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by The Juice
1st-I love how you mention yourself as "We."
2nd-You spouted off for a long time about never going to "the bottom feeder that Colgan is" and now you act like you have been here since day 1, fighting for a better life for the pilots. C5 pilots are fighting the fight and trying to make their crap hole a better place. I respect what they are doing because those of us at Colgan (The true "We") who have been here for some time, know what it is like to be crapped on and still fight for something better. Because of that, I would rather have a C5 pilot as a co-worker anyday instead of someone who calls a pilot group "trash bottom feeders" one say and "We" the next day.
2nd-You spouted off for a long time about never going to "the bottom feeder that Colgan is" and now you act like you have been here since day 1, fighting for a better life for the pilots. C5 pilots are fighting the fight and trying to make their crap hole a better place. I respect what they are doing because those of us at Colgan (The true "We") who have been here for some time, know what it is like to be crapped on and still fight for something better. Because of that, I would rather have a C5 pilot as a co-worker anyday instead of someone who calls a pilot group "trash bottom feeders" one say and "We" the next day.
2. I never claimed to be here since day 1. I also, know of other 9L guys that didn't see themselves coming to (9L). But like them, I am glad I ended up here. The quality of life isn't bad (no thanks to me), and I am sure you would agree that life here today isn't life that you were exposed to pre-contract.
I said, what I said. Its in the past. So, please step off your soap box and if I ever meet ya, 1st round is on me.
Last edited by Luv2Rotate; 11-17-2011 at 08:47 PM.
11-17-2011, 08:55 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by Crawl
Yeah, that. Relatively sure that Pinnacle has already made previous offers to buy C5, but they've all been turned down. Supposedly, management finally agreeing to speed up negotiations and get a contract signed has something to do with the potential sale.
And would we then be Pinnacommutacolaba?
11-17-2011, 11:27 PM
#37
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Position: CA
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Delta is paying Pinnacle's costs because they want Pinnacle to succeed...there is no other reason why they would do this. They could let Pinnacle sink fast.
Sean Menke is standing up and saying, while Delta is helping us, let's get this on the right track now. Some people are saying, same old management, different day. I don't think PT or DS ever cared about telling the employees in-depth of the financial structure. Menke knows that being an open book allows the airline to grow in several different ways. Ask the guys at Frontier.
Sean Menke is standing up and saying, while Delta is helping us, let's get this on the right track now. Some people are saying, same old management, different day. I don't think PT or DS ever cared about telling the employees in-depth of the financial structure. Menke knows that being an open book allows the airline to grow in several different ways. Ask the guys at Frontier.
11-18-2011, 05:37 AM
#38
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Position: In charge of the remote
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Originally Posted by Crawl
Yeah, that. Relatively sure that Pinnacle has already made previous offers to buy C5, but they've all been turned down. Supposedly, management finally agreeing to speed up negotiations and get a contract signed has something to do with the potential sale.
11-18-2011, 09:43 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by PropDriver
Those training costs will be covered by Delta. Delta will also be covering the increased costs of our new contract. They will pay us in Q2 2012.
We are not going to be declaring bankruptcy any time soon.
We are not going to be declaring bankruptcy any time soon.
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