C5 Pay and Contract
05-18-2021 | 10:00 AM
#21
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Joined: May 2021
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Unfortunately not possible, Newark would be great but you know how likely that is. Commuting at this pay just doesn’t make sense.
05-20-2021 | 07:07 PM
#22
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Joined: Sep 2017
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IF that happens our survival will be grim and doubtful.
How the heck will we get ANYONE on property when not only all the majors will be hiring in droves in 2023-24 but better regionals like Endeavor and Republic will likely have even better contracts than they do now, and also be hiring massively?
How??
The company HAS to be aware that they will choke the golden goose if they don’t get something that passes overwhelmingly in the next year at the most.
If I’m wrong please set me straight
How the heck will we get ANYONE on property when not only all the majors will be hiring in droves in 2023-24 but better regionals like Endeavor and Republic will likely have even better contracts than they do now, and also be hiring massively?
How??
The company HAS to be aware that they will choke the golden goose if they don’t get something that passes overwhelmingly in the next year at the most.
If I’m wrong please set me straight
05-20-2021 | 09:49 PM
#23
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Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 6,995
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From: Fully Retired
IF that happens our survival will be grim and doubtful.
How the heck will we get ANYONE on property when not only all the majors will be hiring in droves in 2023-24 but better regionals like Endeavor and Republic will likely have even better contracts than they do now, and also be hiring massively?
How??
The company HAS to be aware that they will choke the golden goose if they don’t get something that passes overwhelmingly in the next year at the most.
If I’m wrong please set me straight
How the heck will we get ANYONE on property when not only all the majors will be hiring in droves in 2023-24 but better regionals like Endeavor and Republic will likely have even better contracts than they do now, and also be hiring massively?
How??
The company HAS to be aware that they will choke the golden goose if they don’t get something that passes overwhelmingly in the next year at the most.
If I’m wrong please set me straight
05-22-2021 | 07:38 PM
#24
On Reserve
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 35
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Should I roll the dice and go to Commutair with the hopes of getting in and building time fast and getting into Aviate and hopefully United as they ramp up hiring even though the pay sucks and some people don't like it and the risk of 145's going away and the airline folding. Or should I go to SkyWest or Envoy where there's more security, nicer planes and better pay but potentially be an FO for 3+ years? Would it be a "rolling the dice"?
05-23-2021 | 03:30 AM
#25
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Joined: Dec 2019
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Should I roll the dice and go to Commutair with the hopes of getting in and building time fast and getting into Aviate and hopefully United as they ramp up hiring even though the pay sucks and some people don't like it and the risk of 145's going away and the airline folding. Or should I go to SkyWest or Envoy where there's more security, nicer planes and better pay but potentially be an FO for 3+ years? Would it be a "rolling the dice"?
05-23-2021 | 04:18 AM
#26
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Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 166
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Should I roll the dice and go to Commutair with the hopes of getting in and building time fast and getting into Aviate and hopefully United as they ramp up hiring even though the pay sucks and some people don't like it and the risk of 145's going away and the airline folding. Or should I go to SkyWest or Envoy where there's more security, nicer planes and better pay but potentially be an FO for 3+ years? Would it be a "rolling the dice"?
Everything in life involves risk one way or another. Coming to C5 is more upfront risk with a higher payout long term. Going to SW or Envoy is less risk now but will cost you years of top pay at a major. I came to C5 and it worked out for me. Others have made the same decision and it did not.
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05-23-2021 | 12:14 PM
#27
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Joined: Aug 2018
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How they decide who gets in I don't know.
05-23-2021 | 04:39 PM
#28
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Joined: May 2021
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Should I roll the dice and go to Commutair with the hopes of getting in and building time fast and getting into Aviate and hopefully United as they ramp up hiring even though the pay sucks and some people don't like it and the risk of 145's going away and the airline folding. Or should I go to SkyWest or Envoy where there's more security, nicer planes and better pay but potentially be an FO for 3+ years? Would it be a "rolling the dice"?
05-23-2021 | 05:45 PM
#29
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Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 271
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Build time fast? Here? Not gonna happen. On reserve you will hardly fly at all. And as a junior line holder I’m getting 50-6o hours a month. Don’t mean to be negative but that has been my experience so far. If quality of life, pay, or building time fast is a priority. You will not get that here and just being blatantly honest. What you will get is a Great pilot group, and lots of fellow pilots willing to help you out. Obviously if you can’t get in anywhere else I say go for it. But if anyone else gives you a CJO, take it and run.
05-23-2021 | 07:02 PM
#30
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Joined: May 2021
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I was talking with some reserve pilots in the IAH crew room last week. They said they have been flying every day except a couple. I think it just depends on your base and some luck. As far as not building a lot of time as a junior lineholder, I think it depends on your base, bidding preferences, etc. I know some junior pilots that bid max credit and are getting lines with 90 hours a month. Of course, they only get 12-13 days off a month. We would all like a 90 hour line with 17 days off but that's not realistic right now. So you gotta make a choice between working a lot 0r having more days off.
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