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koala98g 03-19-2019 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Stan Dingbye (Post 2786049)

In sequence:
Flow time
Cleared direct BTG
Mach .74 for spacing
Shasta yay
I can see Crater Lake
RT 090 for metering
LT 270 for metering
Direct BTG, Normal speed
RT 090 for metering
LT 270 for metering
Cleared direct BTG, Normal speed
After HAWKZ, descend/maintain 4000’, slow to 170
No, you can’t land on the inside.

poorflyer 03-19-2019 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by koala98g (Post 2786055)
In sequence:
Flow time
Cleared direct BTG
Mach .74 for spacing
Shasta yay
I can see Crater Lake
RT 090 for metering
LT 270 for metering
Direct BTG, Normal speed
RT 090 for metering
LT 270 for metering
Cleared direct BTG, Normal speed
After HAWKZ, descend/maintain 4000’, slow to 170
No, you can’t land on the inside.

Landing Fuel: 2451

Slowhawk 03-20-2019 05:47 AM

so really the “flow” is just management blocking us from career progression, great. Maybe if we’re lucky we can flow 1 a month to UA while they throw our apps in the trash.

My money says we never, ever flow more than 2 a month. Just TSH’s way of blocking us from leaving for F9 in droves with their new contract. Scummy move

MuPpET 03-20-2019 08:17 AM

Well frontier is complicit in this too, don't forget that.

Excargodog 03-20-2019 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by MuPpET (Post 2786249)
Well frontier is complicit in this too, don't forget that.

Which begs the issue of; What’s in it for them?

Why does a reliable 24 (or 48) new hires a year strike them as a BETTER deal than all they might wish to hire?

MuPpET 03-20-2019 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2786291)
Which begs the issue of; What’s in it for them?

Why does a reliable 24 (or 48) new hires a year strike them as a BETTER deal than all they might wish to hire?

I think they realize we were sending less than that, they figure if they have a no hassle process guys that were holding out will otherwise just say "ohhhh okayyyy, I guess I'll take the flow to frontier." They think they'll get more with the flow than without.

Taco280AI 03-20-2019 10:48 AM

I wonder how fast down the list it will go. CAs without a full year, FOs without 2 years, those who don't want to go, bypasses who won't accept the flow just yet...

MuPpET 03-20-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Taco280AI (Post 2786369)
I wonder how fast down the list it will go. CAs without a full year, FOs without 2 years, those who don't want to go, bypasses who won't accept the flow just yet...

I think CAs who have no ambition for LCA and already have 1000 PIC MIGHT take it. I think the few super senior who are close to retirement will obviously not. I think jr CAs and senior FOs bypass first round.

Excargodog 03-20-2019 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by MuPpET (Post 2786452)
I think CAs who have no ambition for LCA and already have 1000 PIC MIGHT take it. I think the few super senior who are close to retirement will obviously not. I think jr CAs and senior FOs bypass first round.

I have to wonder - do we really HAVE FOs with two years seniority? Can’t be many. A few RATPs lacking company mins maybe....?

morerightrudder 03-20-2019 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingKat (Post 2785959)
TSA's agreement is 2-4 a month. TSA hasn't been anywhere near an appropriate staffing level so they have only flowed 2 a month.

Ah thanks that is good to know.

FlyingKat, I'm guessing you are a TSA pilot? If so, just curious, since the new F9 TA, how low on the seniority list has the flow gone for you guys?


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