Well look on the bright side... So you upgrade a couple months later and a few Jr people upgrade first. Congrats that's just less reserve for you. I bypassed quite a few and for months the people upgrading were senior to me so it's not all bad.

Pay your dues? Did you sit 1-2 years reserve and get a 2.5 year upgrade like most of the the 2016 hires? I’d say going straight to a line as an FO and upgrading the day you hit 1500 CPZ time, possibly bypassing into another line, isn’t as miserable as it may seem ;)

Miserable is being the bottom guy on reserve, stuck in the wrong base, with no vacancy, newhires, and no upgrades for 8 months, flying about 15 hours a month.

Shoutout to my fall 2016 hires :D

Don’t go comparing cr@ppy QOL stories with Army helicopter pilots. I tried that once, years ago. Just.... don’t. Even flyers in the other services...it just doesn’t compare. The Marines, maybe. I’ve never been a Marine.

Thank God.

;)

You're right, I guess anything FOs do today isn't valid because we didn't go through the same conditions that you did, that we have no control over. Paying dues isn't about how long you sit, it's about knowing your job, doing it well, and doing it until you can move up/on. But anyone that doesn't spend 10-12 years at a regional hasn't paid their dues, because pilots before you had to do that in the past, right? ;)

Yeah you came to CP at a bad time, but that doesn't take anything away from those who came in the last year.

If I wanted to fly under miserable conditions I'd go back to the Army where we had no snack baskets! No CheezIts! No Oreos! No bananas! No bloody mary mix! If only Bobby Lee were there to negotiate on our behalf it might solve their retention problem. Bobby, I see a contractor opportunity for you

Military checks out :D.. In the air force the saying was if you hate your current job, be the best at it.

Lest we forget....

Hahaha.... some of them were actually good, considering.

Some MREs come with Cheeze-its and Oreos.... You just have to add water first:eek:

Considering the alternatives were goats eyeballs, sure. I believe that's what's called 'damning with faint praise'. And even then the veggie omelet, AKA 'vomelet' was not in that category.

So because taco/excargo chose to go into a military branch, then had to face the crappy QOL that they knew would come with these choices, their problems are worse than everyone else’s :confused:

One time I did 95mph on the freeway and got a ticket, this too must count as paying my dues for a regional upgrade!

You argue that it’s wrong to patronize someone about paying their dues because “pilots in the past had it worse”, and yet imply that Hawk’s argument is invalid because “we had it worse in the military”. Seems a little funny.

The army was a choice, perhaps not a wise one if you wanted a career in 121. A few months ago I was in your spot just as sour that I needed to fly 1500 cpz for the upgrade and I got equally roasted here for it. Perhaps just continue flying and doing your best, upgrading in 1.5 years isn’t so bad. Lately every post from you two is something about how the military makes you different. Perhaps spend some time reading about the “tool of the day”, usually military service is the common demoninator