Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
#661
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True, and I'll happily do it. Its gonna be an adjustment. I'll have to pretend that fully configured at the FAF is normal, and that ramp headsets work, and that it doesn't take 20 minutes to get out of the box..LAX has forever ruined me it terms of what I think is supposed to be normal.
If north ground said..
"Compass 123 heavy, follow the unicycler left to right , 24L, where he goes, you go..."
Without hesitation I would simply say, "Roger, we'll follow the unicycler..."
If north ground said..
"Compass 123 heavy, follow the unicycler left to right , 24L, where he goes, you go..."
Without hesitation I would simply say, "Roger, we'll follow the unicycler..."
Also as a serious note SLIP stands for seniority list instructor pilot or something like that. It's a line pilot that works as an sim instructor.
#662
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The whole fully configured and Vapp by FAF is soooo obnoxious. I hate how I have to pretend I'm something I'm not when I go to MSP/STL.
Also as a serious note SLIP stands for seniority list instructor pilot or something like that. It's a line pilot that works as an sim instructor.
Also as a serious note SLIP stands for seniority list instructor pilot or something like that. It's a line pilot that works as an sim instructor.
Maybe others have had a different sim experiences though?
BLS keep it real #WhereTheyGoYouGo standard phraseology
#663
The whole fully configured and Vapp by FAF is soooo obnoxious. I hate how I have to pretend I'm something I'm not when I go to MSP/STL.
Also as a serious note SLIP stands for seniority list instructor pilot or something like that. It's a line pilot that works as an sim instructor.
Also as a serious note SLIP stands for seniority list instructor pilot or something like that. It's a line pilot that works as an sim instructor.
#665
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The ban on flaps 4 makes it more and more clear that the chief pilots have little actual experience flying the airplane.
What a head scratcher. So now I can't use a flaps setting on the airplane? I guess when I get slowed to 150 kts 30nm from LAX with stall protect ice I'm supposed to throw the gear out... 30 miles from the runway...
Not to mention the issues with flaps full if 4 is prohibited.
What a head scratcher. So now I can't use a flaps setting on the airplane? I guess when I get slowed to 150 kts 30nm from LAX with stall protect ice I'm supposed to throw the gear out... 30 miles from the runway...
Not to mention the issues with flaps full if 4 is prohibited.
#666
The ban on flaps 4 makes it more and more clear that the chief pilots have little actual experience flying the airplane.
What a head scratcher. So now I can't use a flaps setting on the airplane? I guess when I get slowed to 150 kts 30nm from LAX with stall protect ice I'm supposed to throw the gear out... 30 miles from the runway...
Not to mention the issues with flaps full if 4 is prohibited.
What a head scratcher. So now I can't use a flaps setting on the airplane? I guess when I get slowed to 150 kts 30nm from LAX with stall protect ice I'm supposed to throw the gear out... 30 miles from the runway...
Not to mention the issues with flaps full if 4 is prohibited.
I mean flaps 4 and 5 are the same technically. Would it be a problem to use flaps 5 when you have to and just deal with the endless aural warning for operational necessity? I mean we have all gotten it at least once. Just a little too quick on calling flaps 5, set Vapp, landing check before the gear was locked. To me, it was never a big deal. Whoops need to wait a second longer. Just thinking outside the box. I’m sure I’d get a FOQA call.
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RIP flaps 4, I always felt smart doing that occasionally, like I would call for it, look to the CA or FO, and there would be a mutual nod.. "yeah...we know about flaps 4..."
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I think maybe only once or twice did I use it as an "intermediate" setting while waiting for the gear to come down, and I understand why they want to discourage that. However, I've used it plenty of times for stall protect ice speeds when given a low speed on a heavy aircraft, and I use it when landing flaps full as a reminder so that I get a too low, flaps if we accidentally forget to go flaps full, preventing the possibility of landing flaps 5 when we have full numbers.
It's insane to me to have something on the plane we can't use.
It's insane to me to have something on the plane we can't use.
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Just for clarity, the 737 skips several intermediate flap settings during normal configuration sequence. However, I agree with your overall point. F4 is a tool that's there to be used.
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