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Old 08-06-2019, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
Just make sure to leave your union lanyards/pins at the door.
Eh, more ALPA lanyards/pins are fine by me!
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:35 AM
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Just for a data point for the new hires.. In 2016 we lost 6 planes for 4 months and it stopped upgrades and hiring for 6 months. So... Even in the best of cases with UAL, it's still a net loss of enough planes to make the music stop.. Furlough still definitely possible
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Old 08-06-2019, 08:49 AM
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Sorry to hear the bad news. Compass was a great place to get your time and GTFO. On the bright side, the legacies and cargo companies love Compass pilots- keep your apps updated and suits dry cleaned. Back in my day we complained about the Minot highspeeds and the Minneapolis Mamma’s. Then again, there was always “back-rub Betty” to brighten your day.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:00 AM
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Do you all think Compass will be able to hold it together with 20 airplanes and moving the hq? It's a pretty big cost to move hq down to stl and it will be even harder to justify the cost when the overhead is basically the same for a fleet 1/3 the size of what it is now.

Honestly I think compass will let the aa flying go if they don't get any ual flying. Either that or combine the 3 carriers. Nothing else makes sense to me.

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Old 08-06-2019, 09:10 AM
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So sorry for the folks at Compass. I fear TSA is next. I wouldn't believe anything coming from management. Their goal is to keep the rig moving and will do whatever they need to make it happen. Anybody remember when the memo was put out denying the Bastian video last November? Hopefully this ends well for everyone but I don't think it will, unfortunately.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear View Post
Do you all think Compass will be able to hold it together with 20 airplanes and moving the hq? It's a pretty big cost to move hq down to stl and it will be even harder to justify the cost when the overhead is basically the same for a fleet 1/3 the size of what it is now.

Honestly I think compass will let rhw aa flying go if they don't get any ual flying. Either that or combine the 3 carriers. Nothing else makes sense to me.
TSH has had an area for the CZ SOC and offices for a while at the GO in STL so that won't be a big issue they have been prepared for it for years. TSH has wanted to move everything to STL but was unable to do it because of something in the agreement with Delta. I've heard several times the CZ AA flying would eventually go back to Envoy just like the TSA 145s did but you never know. Also TSH management has been adamant about not combining certificates for years but this may change things.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
Just make sure to leave your union lanyards/pins at the door.
You never heard about the lawsuit apparently.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger View Post
Just for a data point for the new hires.. In 2016 we lost 6 planes for 4 months and it stopped upgrades and hiring for 6 months. So... Even in the best of cases with UAL, it's still a net loss of enough planes to make the music stop.. Furlough still definitely possible
Well I wonder how long until we hear if our start dates are cancelled (still being optimistic although I know reality). I really don't want to go to Skywest.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:50 AM
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Well I wonder how long until we hear if our start dates are cancelled (still being optimistic although I know reality). I really don't want to go to Skywest.
Then don’t man. We really don’t need a NH who doesn’t want to be here and there are plenty who do. We are going to get a union some day and it’s pretty quick progression to the west as FO and now CAs will probably be less then 4 years to West coast on ERJ. CRJ is like 2.5 years. I can say this, you would be the biggest fool to start at an airline that has a lot of unknowns right now.
https://youtu.be/OTrxEQnPtAg That would kinda be you, if you start class knowing what’s going on right now.



Sorry Compass people this is a tough one and I know if I was in your position I would be really upset, especially if I didn’t have any prospects. I wouldn’t want to start over at OO when I already had the seniority at CPZ. I wish y’all well and I think y’all will get some UAL flying, so I don’t believe the sky is falling.

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Old 08-06-2019, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear View Post
Do you all think Compass will be able to hold it together with 20 airplanes and moving the hq? It's a pretty big cost to move hq down to stl and it will be even harder to justify the cost when the overhead is basically the same for a fleet 1/3 the size of what it is now.

Honestly I think compass will let the aa flying go if they don't get any ual flying. Either that or combine the 3 carriers. Nothing else makes sense to me.
The memo stated that Delta is allowing Compass to keep their HQ space in Building C in MSP.
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