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#2531
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.
#2532
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 593
I got less than a 3.0 in both high school and college. I've never failed a checkride or a 121 training event and my worst systems test score so far has been a 95%. I don't think college GPA is an accurate predictor of anything really. Should someone with a 4.0 GPA from a community college land a job before someone with a 2.8 GPA from Yale for instance?
It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.
It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.
On another note:
Just wanted to say how great it has been from the start to the finish of training including IOE. Every single pilot, flight attendant, instructor, check airman, APD, etc. has been welcoming. There are so many examples of guys going out of there way for me, guys who didn't know me, and it's evident that I can enjoy my time here. It is a huge change from my previous employer and validates the decision for leaving. For those of you in training coming down the pipe, or those of you waiting for a class date, you will enjoy being here. Good luck!
#2533
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 228
Agreed, the vibe I get is can you fly with someone safely over a 4 day and not get you or the other pilot violated, there is obviously more to it than that, but if your a sharp person and have a desire to constantly be a better pilot and fly SOP you are golden!
On another note:
Just wanted to say how great it has been from the start to the finish of training including IOE. Every single pilot, flight attendant, instructor, check airman, APD, etc. has been welcoming. There are so many examples of guys going out of there way for me, guys who didn't know me, and it's evident that I can enjoy my time here. It is a huge change from my previous employer and validates the decision for leaving. For those of you in training coming down the pipe, or those of you waiting for a class date, you will enjoy being here. Good luck!
On another note:
Just wanted to say how great it has been from the start to the finish of training including IOE. Every single pilot, flight attendant, instructor, check airman, APD, etc. has been welcoming. There are so many examples of guys going out of there way for me, guys who didn't know me, and it's evident that I can enjoy my time here. It is a huge change from my previous employer and validates the decision for leaving. For those of you in training coming down the pipe, or those of you waiting for a class date, you will enjoy being here. Good luck!
#2535
I got less than a 3.0 in both high school and college. I've never failed a checkride or a 121 training event and my worst systems test score so far has been a 95%. I don't think college GPA is an accurate predictor of anything really. Should someone with a 4.0 GPA from a community college land a job before someone with a 2.8 GPA from Yale for instance?
It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.
It's just a number which really means nothing post-grad. How you perform in the work place is what should matter.
You're probably an exception to the rule. This has been studied in great detail, and there is some pretty solid data on this suggesting otherwise.
GPA is a very strong predictor, not the only predictor, but still very telling of someone's possible success (or failure) in the 121 environment (not just training). Aside from GPA, type of degree, and college are also factors. Someone with a business degree from a community college has a lower chance for 121 success than someone with an engineering degree from MIT.
Actually, a lot of the part 117 regs were derived from these studies. ie RATP mins.
#2536
I had the chance a while back to speak at length with the head of our pilot recruiting on that subject and I can assure you they look at every nuance you can imagine and even some you cant. Yale vs podunk is deff considered. They have done an excellent job of hiring people who want to be team players and have the talent to back it up. That said, spend a few years getting shafted by the tsh mgmt side of the house and your tune may begin to change. The schedules are good, the pilots are sharp (we do have our 10%), and the flying is diverse. If you have to be at a regional its not a bad place to be.
#2537
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
The problem with this thought process is that it assumes a GPA from a local podunk community college is the same as at a larger, tougher private college. A 3.2 at some places is worth more than a 3.9 at others. I wouldn't use GPA as a benchmark for someone passing 121 training.
#2539
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
How many MIT grads of any GPA are applying to Compass anyway? Seems like a silly point to argue. As a side note, the training at Compass is mostly self study, and people who can't study well enough to get a decent GPA are going to have a harder time self pacing and self motivating to get through the countless hours of really boring CBT while picking the useful info out from the rest of clutter. This is different from other training programs that have you in class every day presenting all of the things that you have to learn on your own at Compass.
#2540
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 228
How many MIT grads of any GPA are applying to Compass anyway? Seems like a silly point to argue. As a side note, the training at Compass is mostly self study, and people who can't study well enough to get a decent GPA are going to have a harder time self pacing and self motivating to get through the countless hours of really boring CBT while picking the useful info out from the rest of clutter. This is different from other training programs that have you in class every day presenting all of the things that you have to learn on your own at Compass.
The CBT training is a joke, its some computer voice reading slides and then you take a quiz (of which you have multiple attempts) at the end. The oral is a breeze and the only thing I can really see people struggle with is in the actual sim.
I honestly don't see how this GPA thing plays a huge factor into the interview process. Sure,if someone had less than say a 2.4 GPA, then maybe thats a red flag. Some of the most book smart pilots I have flown with (of which I'm sure all had excellent GPAs) were not confident decision makers and had crappy CRM skills (not to mention bad flying skills).
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