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BlueMoon 12-28-2014 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Shark (Post 1791801)
The needed upgrades could be used as leverage to better the pilot group. No one upgrades until improvements are made.

The company upgrades pilots, not the union.

Shark 12-28-2014 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by conquestdz (Post 1791847)
How do you prevent upgrades?

You change your standing bid to reflect your current position.

madmax757 12-28-2014 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1791731)
Two cancelations today due to unavailable pilots and dozens of emails from scheduling recently asking..begging.. for pilots to fly trips on their days off. I got a call after my last trip begging me to "help them out and do them a favor and they'd make me a deal" if I extended myself into my day off to cover flights the next day. :mad:

CP 5813 PDX 12/28 10:08 LAX 12/28 12:25 EC5 12/28 12:33:21 NML FAM: 08A-PILOT UNAVAILABLE / OPERATIONAL DECISION

CP 5813 LAX 12/28 06:55 PDX 12/28 09:36 EC5 12/28 12:33:05 NML FAM: 08A-PILOT UNAVAILABLE / OPERATIONAL DECISION

It's only Captains they are short of though. If they change critical pay to double-time I bet there wouldn't be any cancellations.

BlueMoon 12-28-2014 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Shark (Post 1791862)
You change your standing bid to reflect your current position.

They will junior man if no one bids a position...

djrogs03 12-28-2014 02:12 PM

If we are canceling flights for no pilots available, then it's the company's fault for not staffing properly. We shouldn't have to cover up their mistakes by making deals and flying on our days off to hide the problem. Delta sees this and I'm sure is telling Compass to fix it ASAP...

AlaskaBound 12-28-2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1791913)
If we are canceling flights for no pilots available, then it's the companies fault for not staffing properly. We shouldn't have to cover up their mistakes by making deals and flying on our days off to hide the problem. Delta sees this and I'm sure is telling Compass to fix it ASAP...

I didn't even think twice about saying no. I will not encourage the airline to short-staff themselves. Maybe if they have enough cancellations do to no pilots available then they MIGHT actually do something about it. I absolutely refuse to work on my day off or let them treat me like a reserve. I'm a pretty senior FO so I should be the last guy they're calling to "ask for a favor" and treat me like I'm at their beck and call whenever they way.

Rama04 12-28-2014 04:13 PM

I wouldn't be concerned over one turn canceling at all. In fact, other DCI carriers cancel more often and are less reliable - they don't even worry about losing their feed. Nobody else is staffed to take the flying anyway. Everything is going to be ok.
If they were really desperate, they would make Critical Pay a higher percentage.
Now let's talk about something exciting!!!
Since the current vacancy is only for FOs, will they backfill an FO position if a DTW or MSP a FO moves to LAX?
When is the next CA upgrade vacancy coming?

AlaskaBound 12-28-2014 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1791955)
I wouldn't be concerned over one turn canceling at all. In fact, other DCI carriers cancel more often and are less reliable - they don't even worry about losing their feed. Nobody else is staffed to take the flying anyway. Everything is going to be ok.
If they were really desperate, they would make Critical Pay a higher percentage.
Now let's talk about something exciting!!!
Since the current vacancy is only for FOs, will they backfill an FO position if a DTW or MSP a FO moves to LAX?
When is the next CA upgrade vacancy coming?

I don't think anyone's worried. It's just more frustrating than anything. It's something that is completely preventable. The big wigs sit there and twiddle their thumbs while we are expected to work harder to cover their inadequacies. Shuttle and ASA cancel almost daily due to pilot shortages. Even the mighty SKW is canceling due to no pilots available. It's happening everywhere. Check it out on DLnet.

I bet they do backfill MSP or DTW FOs. I and I bet the next captain upgrade vacancy comes out within a week of this current vacancy closing.

FaceBiter 12-28-2014 07:23 PM

Don't feel bad, SKW is canceling like 30 flights a day due to no crews. Even with the double time ferry making a special delivery.

AlaskaBound 12-29-2014 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1792033)
Don't feel bad, SKW is canceling like 30 flights a day due to no crews. Even with the double time ferry making a special delivery.

SKW canceled 8 flights in the last week due to no crews available. The big loser in the DCI system was Shuttle. They far outdo any DCI carrier in any given week. They were also just awarded more E-170flying for Delta. So performance isn't everything I guess.


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