Compass updates
04-20-2015 | 09:43 PM
#6731
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Anyone got any ideas how we are going to keep hiring enough pilots? Serious post, no trolling here...
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
04-20-2015 | 09:55 PM
#6732
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Anyone got any ideas how we are going to keep hiring enough pilots? Serious post, no trolling here...
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
Yeah, Compass may not be for everyone, unless you live in SoCal - and I think that junior LAX base is a big of enough "incentive" to most.
Hopefully if AA throws more E175s their way...
Compass does have a pretty awesome contract though...
04-21-2015 | 06:37 AM
#6733
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Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Just another RJ guy
Anyone got any ideas how we are going to keep hiring enough pilots? Serious post, no trolling here...
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc. etc. etc.
Aside from a quick upgrade and a junior west coast base, Compass pales in comparison when it comes to pay. Our DAL flow is gone, and the language on the guaranteed interview is so unclear that it's about as good as runway behind you. And we are just now getting the company to pay for hotels during training? No wonder the past few classes of 10+ have had less than half that number actually show up!
Hopefully we won't have a staffing issue, but there need to be more incentives to fly for this airline.
I you look solely at 1st year pay with possible retention bonus then it's a short sighted view. Upgrading here will mean you surpass the pay any new FO gets while at 9E. Remember they're not even close to upgrade times like we have here.
But you're right, Compass is way behind on offering incentives to come here. The hotel thing for new hires is just the beginning and I assume more will be offered as the hiring dept struggles to get enough guys in class. Some sort of bonus to new hires will probably be the next step.
04-21-2015 | 06:44 AM
#6734
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Endeavor has "promised" $80,000 over a long period of time...don't forget they are wholly owned and are more easily disposed than the other DCI carriers. Also, they do NOT offer quick upgrades. They are assuming upgrades will happen but it's not the case yet.
I you look solely at 1st year pay with possible retention bonus then it's a short sighted view. Upgrading here will mean you surpass the pay any new FO gets while at 9E. Remember they're not even close to upgrade times like we have here.
But you're right, Compass is way behind on offering incentives to come here. The hotel thing for new hires is just the beginning and I assume more will be offered as the hiring dept struggles to get enough guys in class. Some sort of bonus to new hires will probably be the next step.
I you look solely at 1st year pay with possible retention bonus then it's a short sighted view. Upgrading here will mean you surpass the pay any new FO gets while at 9E. Remember they're not even close to upgrade times like we have here.
But you're right, Compass is way behind on offering incentives to come here. The hotel thing for new hires is just the beginning and I assume more will be offered as the hiring dept struggles to get enough guys in class. Some sort of bonus to new hires will probably be the next step.
04-21-2015 | 06:48 AM
#6735
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Joined: Oct 2006
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From: ERJ145XR
Is Compass still sending new hires home for home study or are they doing all training at their training center? Previous posts stated a 2 week at home CBT. Is that still the case? Are new hires paid while at home training with the CBT?
Last edited by Lanesuzza; 04-21-2015 at 06:51 AM. Reason: incomplete post
04-21-2015 | 07:20 AM
#6736
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Joined: Sep 2010
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Endeavor has "promised" $80,000 over a long period of time...don't forget they are wholly owned and are more easily disposed than the other DCI carriers. Also, they do NOT offer quick upgrades. They are assuming upgrades will happen but it's not the case yet.
I you look solely at 1st year pay with possible retention bonus then it's a short sighted view. Upgrading here will mean you surpass the pay any new FO gets while at 9E. Remember they're not even close to upgrade times like we have here.
But you're right, Compass is way behind on offering incentives to come here. The hotel thing for new hires is just the beginning and I assume more will be offered as the hiring dept struggles to get enough guys in class. Some sort of bonus to new hires will probably be the next step.
I you look solely at 1st year pay with possible retention bonus then it's a short sighted view. Upgrading here will mean you surpass the pay any new FO gets while at 9E. Remember they're not even close to upgrade times like we have here.
But you're right, Compass is way behind on offering incentives to come here. The hotel thing for new hires is just the beginning and I assume more will be offered as the hiring dept struggles to get enough guys in class. Some sort of bonus to new hires will probably be the next step.
04-21-2015 | 07:58 AM
#6737
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2 week at home CBT. You get paid 18.5 hours (IIRC) for it. Then normal guarantee of 75 hours a month starts on your first day back to ground school.
04-21-2015 | 08:26 AM
#6738
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From: CRJ FO
Anyone got any ideas how we are going to keep hiring enough pilots? Serious post, no trolling here...
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc....
Endeavor offers up to $80,000 in retention bonuses. $2,000 for every referral. And a quick upgrade.
Piedmont has a no-interview flow to American. And a quick upgrade.
etc....
Endeavor has 9 year FOs! You've got to be kidding me! There are first officers who were displaced from Captain years ago at endeavor. To say that it's a quick upgrade is a LIE. Up until last month, they were still DOWNGRADING at endeavor!
Compass does have a junior west coast base (two actually). They also have career progression(quick upgrade). Virtually zero lifers. But most importantly, NOT A BANKRUPTCY OR CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT. PSA and Endeavor both have garbage contracts. Absolute garbage compared to the new Compass CBA that was just agreed to last year (and if I may add, made positive gains on the previous contract).
04-21-2015 | 08:38 AM
#6739
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There is a reason 6-8 year FOs are leaving Endeavor to come to Compass.
04-21-2015 | 08:58 AM
#6740
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Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Just another RJ guy
I'm glad I could make your day and show up on schedule. The first DCI carrier to never had bad numbers can be the first to throw the stone. Until then, your off-point argument is stupid. Moving on.
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