Good to know you prefer people should not know the truth about what we are deciding. Pretty sad and pathetic you spend your posts not addressing the lies and misconceptions put on here about what our pilot group is deciding.

 

We fly on redeye dhs at Compass.

Red eyes, ferry flights, and deadheads in the middle of the night are the only examples where we can make 4:00 on 2 day trip and 8:00 on a 3 day trip.

I have said it all along it wasn't a min day option, yet for the longest time you all kept saying it was. I have no motive other than making sure people understand that.

Know what you are deciding on, that is it.

 

We get a minimum of 4:00 of pay/credit for each duty period. With the adtg we also get a minimum of 4:45 of pay/credit for each day. If we drop the adtg, we will get an extra 4:00 pay/credit if we have an entire calendar day without duty.

The key here is if you have any duty period go into the next calendar day, it wipes out that option. The adtg however, would protect you from that.

You just need to decide if you would rather have a 4:45 adtg or 4:00 credit to add on to a trip with an entire day without duty, while running the risk of not getting it if one duty period went past 11:59 PM (This does happen).

 

Just to clarify though, the trip would have to be originally built to run after midnight to not get the 4 extra hours. If we decide on Credit for a calander day off that credit would be built into the trip and would be pay protected if say the flight ran late for maintenance or weather. You're making it sound a little like if you run late past midnight you'd lose pay. That's not the case though.

 

You want people to choose the ADTG because of something we do .05% of our operational time, that's dumb...look at the big picture bud, you've been all over the fact that we should keep ADTG because this incredibly small loophole in our contract...

 

I'm sorry, but raising the floor value of our trips to 4:45 per day, does not only happen .5% of the time.

Many of us remember the old contract where plenty of 10:30 4-days were built. We were understaffed back then also.

 

I was simply referring to the examples he is talking about in relation to ADTG that occur very rarely in our operation, and .5 would be 50%

 

50%? Sorry I missed a zero when quoting your statistics. I should have said .05%.

Either way, you're both arguing like school girls about extreme cases. The goal is to help out the largest amount of pilots on the list. Let the MEC know you thoughts, and accept the result. The survey taken before negotiations was clear that the pilot group wanted a trip/duty rig or min day credit. They have given us that, one way or the other.

Try to be happy you're not at some other regionals that are shrinking and have no movement. Our problems pale in comparison to others.

 

Good. I have two 30 hr layovers in feb

 

Yes, I should have clarified that it would have to be scheduled past 11:59PM. You would be pay protected for the extra 4:00 for a calendar day originally scheduled without duty if you extended into the next day, after the schedule was built.

The whole point I am trying to make is that we do not get a min day option if we drop the adtg, so there are circumstances that we can see 4:00 2 days and 8:00 3 days.

People need to be clear on their understanding of this, because non-CDO trips will be made with duty periods that cross into more than 1 calendar day. I just don't want to see people act surprised when 8:00 3 days or 12:00 4 days when they show up on the bid packet or open time. The fact it took so many of you to come around to this idea, that it isn't a min day option, shows that there is a large misconception on what we are deciding.