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Snickers 05-26-2015 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1888833)
Couldn't tell you man. A big chunk of the FOs that are being bypassed are MSP guys. When they get their times and upgrade I'm sure it will cause a lot of vacancies. I think 2-4 years for upgrade.
Most of the captains by years end will be captains for less than a year, and it will take 1.5-2 years to get 1000 TPIC that make them more marketable to move on. And just because you have the time doesn't mean boom you're gone. I think once the growth settles down the attrition from the top will be at a lower rato than other airlines with more seasoned and senior captain pilot groups. Though I would say nearly all Compass guys are motivated to move on. But that's all just my own speculation.

Couple things right but also a couple things wrong With this post. A lot of the cpz guys/girls being hired outside of the flow have little (if any) TPIC time when being hired. I personally dont think our management has prepared for this at alll. Also, most bypassers in MSP are by choice whereas LAX bypassers (the majority of FOs) are bc of qualications. Everything else, i'd agree with.

Still a great place to be

Crazy Canuck 05-26-2015 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1888512)
I asked the guy if he had 1000 hours of 121 time so I could help him make a decision based on the current situation at Compass. He was offended I asked since he has 6000 hours. That is all.

Not surprised you are chirping on here. You are full of filth coming from your mouth.










You can associate yourself with the likes of TalkTurkey all you like. I'll look out for my crews like I always do.

Maybe YOU should take a reality check. I agree with the other posters. Your posts add 0 value and serve to tear others down if they don't see things your way. Exactly what this industry does not need.

Or you can carry on oblivious to that as you wish.

404yxl 05-26-2015 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1888908)
Maybe YOU should take a reality check. I agree with the other posters. Your posts add 0 value and serve to tear others down if they don't see things your way. Exactly what this industry does not need.

Or you can carry on oblivious to that as you wish.

You are no better than the rest that want to hide to truth from prospective new hires. I am going to give them the realities of the regional industry, while you and others get angry when that reality is put out in front, because you are afraid it hurts your airline's staffing ability.

You can get angry and call names all you want, it won't change that reality. Talkturkey and others use language and attacks when they can't handle others getting the truth. You have chosen to associate with that behavior. I will help new hires make the best informed decision they can.

Fact is Skywest has a lot of 50 seat aircraft and those 50 seat aircraft won't be sticking around for nearly as long as new hires are being led to believe. You can lie to them, or you can give them the truth of what this industry is going through.

saturn 05-26-2015 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1888921)
You are no better than the rest that want to hide to truth from prospective new hires. I am going to give them the realities of the regional industry, while you and others get angry when that reality is put out in front, because you are afraid it hurts your airline's staffing ability.

You can get angry and call names all you want, it won't change that reality. Talkturkey and others use language and attacks when they can't handle others getting the truth. You have chosen to associate with that behavior. I will help new hires make the best informed decision they can.

Fact is Skywest has a lot of 50 seat aircraft and those 50 seat aircraft won't be sticking around for nearly as long as new hires are being led to believe. You can lie to them, or you can give them the truth of what this industry is going through.

While it's great to be honest with people getting into the industry, "truth" is relative. Some people are overly opportunistic, some pessimistic. Your truth about SkyWest 200s isn't factual, nor is your truth about PSA losing aircraft. Important things to consider for a new hire going there? Sure.
But you're referring to possibilities as "facts", and then you label yourself as some lone crusader of truth amongst a sea of self motivated deceivers. You are just a pilot pawn like the rest of us in this airline chess game. You don't "know" facts about private meetings and deals taking place right now for future aircraft RFPs. You gotta wait for announcements like the rest.

404yxl 05-26-2015 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1889045)
While it's great to be honest with people getting into the industry, "truth" is relative. Some people are overly opportunistic, some pessimistic. Your truth about SkyWest 200s isn't factual, nor is your truth about PSA losing aircraft. Important things to consider for a new hire going there? Sure.
But you're referring to possibilities as "facts", and then you label yourself as some lone crusader of truth amongst a sea of self motivated deceivers. You are just a pilot pawn like the rest of us in this airline chess game. You don't "know" facts about private meetings and deals taking place right now for future aircraft RFPs. You gotta wait for announcements like the rest.

Do you understand what Mainline Scope and the ATP minimums coupled with low regional compensation is doing to the regional model right now?

To tell prospective new hires to wait for management to announce something that will hurt their careers is terrible advice. You should be advising prospective new hires of the reality of the regional situation so they can make an informed decision and not be shocked when it happens.

I don't need to wait for announcements to know they will happen. Just read between the lines and you can make a very good determination about what is happening.

Crazy Canuck 05-26-2015 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1889045)
While it's great to be honest with people getting into the industry, "truth" is relative. Some people are overly opportunistic, some pessimistic. Your truth about SkyWest 200s isn't factual, nor is your truth about PSA losing aircraft. Important things to consider for a new hire going there? Sure.
But you're referring to possibilities as "facts", and then you label yourself as some lone crusader of truth amongst a sea of self motivated deceivers. You are just a pilot pawn like the rest of us in this airline chess game. You don't "know" facts about private meetings and deals taking place right now for future aircraft RFPs. You gotta wait for announcements like the rest.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I don't doubt the 50 seaters will get parked one day. I just am not all doom and gloom about it!
I also don't go out of my way to burst everyone else's bubble so I can feel better about myself!

PropDriver 05-26-2015 10:36 AM

If you guys want to talk about Skywest's 50 seaters, go to the Skywest thread. This is a Compass thread. Keep it on topic, please.

tunes 05-26-2015 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 1888908)
Maybe YOU should take a reality check. I agree with the other posters. Your posts add 0 value and serve to tear others down if they don't see things your way. Exactly what this industry does not need.



Or you can carry on oblivious to that as you wish.


But but but ADTG


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saturn 05-26-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1889069)
Do you understand what Mainline Scope and the ATP minimums coupled with low regional compensation is doing to the regional model right now?

To tell prospective new hires to wait for management to announce something that will hurt their careers is terrible advice. You should be advising prospective new hires of the reality of the regional situation so they can make an informed decision and not be shocked when it happens.

I don't need to wait for announcements to know they will happen. Just read between the lines and you can make a very good determination about what is happening.

I felt I was being realistic 1 page back when people where asking me questions. I made it clear that it was speculation on my part though. Have some humility and admit you don't know it all, I know I don't. I have been right a lot and other times wrong, but I can't predict everything. Neither can you.

phalanxo 05-26-2015 12:36 PM

How long til I get healthcare? Is it 3 months from orientation date?
(Is it decent coverage for a single healthy guy w/o a family?)


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