Because, after all, despite requiring the same CRM, teamwork, and leadership concepts that apply in a multi-pilot cockpit in order to lead multi-jet formations that are closely executing the same tasks, fighter guys can't be a good part of a multi-pilot crew.

Despite leading a formation and having to conduct CRM with guys who are in other cockpits (who can only see the actions of the outside of your airplane, and can only hear the sound of your voice over the radio, and thus require more efficiency and specificity in that communication in order to be effective and efficient at it) doesn't take any crew followership or leadership skills, of course.

Because fighter guys, despite having a formal CRM initial and and annual recurrent CRM training process in the military that is longer and more in-depth than the CRM powerpoint module they'll receive in initial training at Compass, there's just no way they can figure out how to be part of a crew as a follower or leader.

Because if they just had 1000 hours of SIC at a regional, rather than the piddly 500 hours of 121 SIC they need to add by FAR to the 500 hours (out of who knows how much total -- could be thousands) of military PIC time they have, they'd finally actually be qualified to be a regional captain.

 

well, i was trying to be nicer about it, but yeah

 

Where do you live or want to live?

 

Yeah, once you've done it a couple times it isn't bad. But we don't train for it. The first time I did it, it was late at night, bad weather, and both of us hadn't been there. The military is a little different I'd say, in prepping for flying into "difficult" airports. I'm sure you know this

 

Swore id never do it... But I am considering compass for the quick upgrade. Leave one regional for another. Don't know if I'll go through with it though as it such a risk and for other reasons. Just wondering if I'm too late to the game. I have the time to upgrade (4.5 years 121). Compass is the only regional I'd go for as well. Seems like it might be worth the risk but I have no clue. Prob best to stay put.

 

had you considered this 6 months ago, absolutely.....now, its a big gamble

 

Yep... Well I'll just apply and see where things are if I get offered a job. I can always turn it down.

 

would you say its still a risk worth taking though? if the capt/FO list is relatively equal it would be about 350-375 FOs total out what I believe is 751 total pilots(i think). with 90 or so(i think) still to flow to Delta this year, coupled with at least some portion of FOs not having the time to upgrade, in addition to normal attrition....still seems to have a good outlook. Thanks in advance

 

404 will chime in shortly, he has run the numbers on all this and i haven't.

 

cool thanks a lot guys