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404yxl 06-24-2015 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by UPTme (Post 1914533)
There are some 13 hour 4 days in there. Duty off 0001 in SAT for 29 hour unpaid sit!

People are going be flying .819 LAX-SAT!

Are you sure it isn't a 3-day? We have a 4 hour min day so that would be impossible to see a 4-day worth less than 16 hours.

UPTme 06-24-2015 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1914584)
Are you sure it isn't a 3-day? We have a 4 hour min day so that would be impossible to see a 4-day worth less than 16 hours.

L2192. I'm sure there are more.

404yxl 06-24-2015 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by UPTme (Post 1914611)
L2192. I'm sure there are more.

Must be an error. With the 4 hour min day it should be showing at least 17 hours. The pilot should call scheduling and have them fix it.

LurkingEmbraer 06-24-2015 06:31 PM

Any of you guys/gals commute from Atlanta to the west coast bases? How has your experience been at Compass?

Aviator147 06-24-2015 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 1914618)
Must be an error. With the 4 hour min day it should be showing at least 17 hours. The pilot should call scheduling and have them fix it.

L2164 is a "4 day" with 1709 of block and 1757 of credit. it has that SAT 2952 layover that has a day end of 0001am the next day. Am I correct in understanding that the day you sit in SAT is unpaid? sorry if this has been asked before.

johnboy9875 06-25-2015 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Fcm135flyer (Post 1912256)
Does anyone know for sure if Compass will count 135 PIC time for upgrade or do they just require 1000 hours of 121?

Been in private/charter my whole career and considering the airlines. Anyone else made that change? Have a fairly secure gig but being on call all the time does get old so thinking a change in scenery and a new challenge might be a good thing. Thanks for any input!


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1912281)
Was the flight time under 135.243a1? If so, then yes.

If not, then no and that's not just a Compass policy, it is in FAR 121.436a3 spells out what counts and what doesn't.

I'm a 135 guy too thinking about jumping ship. Cruising the forums and saw this post and discussed it with another former 135 guy just finishing training at a different regional airline. Apparently his chief pilot interpreted this 135 reg as saying a turbojet of 10 pax plus. After reading the reg myself I believe the chief pilot is mistaken in his interpretation. It's turbojet, OR a plane of 10+ pax.

A strangely constructed sentence in the reg, so I see how it could be misinterpreted. Maybe I am misinterpreting it. Oh well. Just nerding out on some FARs!

Ar Pilot 06-25-2015 01:07 PM

You block in at 1146 and duty off at 1201 on the 10th. It's the company's way of avoiding the 4 hour calendar day. All you have to do is make sure you block in before 1145 and you should get the 4 hours of calendar day pay. I'd give scheduling a call right after you block in to remind them as well.

EuroMexPilot 06-25-2015 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by UPTme (Post 1914533)
There are some 13 hour 4 days in there. Duty off 0001 in SAT for 29 hour unpaid sit!

People are going be flying .819 LAX-SAT!

Correct me if I'm wrong (because I usually am)
Isn't it based on scheduled time?
This is an obvious abuse of "day with no duty scheduled" by having us scheduled to duty in at 00:01.

7AC2B60 06-25-2015 05:47 PM

Section 135.243(a)(1) operations
 
JB, based on FAA May 7, 2015 memo below, your interpretation "It's turbojet, OR a plane of 10+ pax" is correct.

from FAA Memo dated May 7, 2015 that provides corrective information to FAA letter dated March 7, 2014:

Accordingly, this memorandum confirms that§ 135.243(a)(1) requires a PIC to hold an airline transport pilot cetiificate for the following passenger-carrying operations conducted in accordance with part 135: (1) operations using a turbojet airplane; (2) operations using an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more; and (3) operations using a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in pati 119 of Chapter 1, ofTitle 14.

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf

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March 7, 2014 FAA letter (corrected by memo above):

Section 135.243(a)(1) operations are passenger carrying operations using a turbojet with a passenger-seat configuration of 10 seats or more,or using a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation for which the PIC must hold an A TP with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating.



http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf

EuroMexPilot 06-26-2015 07:48 AM

Anyone listen in to the meeting last night? Anything worth reporting?


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