Work schedule
 

Looking for a little info on Compass.
What the work schedule like for the FO's? Is there a lot of open time to pick up? How much could you possibly make with open time? Thanks.

Well its an airline schedule, bid via a public bidding system like the rest of the world. So anywhere from 11/12 off upto 18 in some cases. Personal line/pairing preferences combined with seniority will dictate your schedule. Alot of captain opentime. FO kinda overstaffed. Not much opentime at all for FOs. Pretty soon I'm guessing there won't be a whole lot on either side.

Any sort of growth or loss regarding fleet size in the coming months? Are any of the AA planes headed to envoy?

I think they'll continue to run kind of lean on captains. It's cheap keeping a bunch of extra FOs around. That said we don't exactly seem overstaffed, attrition has been high and I think AA is going to add more flying on their side when we can handle it.
Shrinking or losing the 175s to envoy... No. We fly them cheaper and our performance on that side is great. American loves us. Growth... Nothing solid right now. But I think Compass is well positioned for growth. This is the airline industry so who knows but we are cheap and have an airplane everybody likes when fuel is $2 or $5 and no people sitting around capped out on pay. If you wait til growth is actually announced, you're already too late and won't be at the front of the next wave. But that's my optimistic view, who can say.

All that sounds good to me. But my only concern with what you said is running lean on captains. How will this effect movement?

no loss. rumors of growth but nothing official. No 175s going to Envoy until the contract is up in 2020.

It doesn't effect anything other than the ratio between captains and FOs. We still upgrade captains, just at slower rate than hiring FOs. Right now we have 364 captains and 415 FOs (according to the last notice of vacancy). In LAX the disproportion is the biggest (235 CAs and 290 FOs). Not all the CAs are on the line yet, some still in training or waiting for the class, some on a leave. There were 188 CAs bidding for March in LAX and 162 estimated lines. The number of lines has been consistently stable since we received the last airplane delivery, so after all the upgrades are done, considering no attrition, we should be properly staffed on the CA side. The FO side is in my opinion more then properly staffed already. I can't see the exact numbers, but I know that there's almost no open time and more than ample number of reserves. That is happening while probably over 90 FOs are still in training (maybe someone can chime in with the exact numbers). I think the company is simply stacking up on FOs mostly because it takes almost 3 months to train a new hire and as little as 3 weeks to upgrade a captain. The valid question is, why so many FOs? If it's just to replace attrition, then I'm missing something. The attrition increased but it's still not that high (5-10 a month at the most). We are hiring way more then that...

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Shift flying from Compass to Envoy?

Oh, yeah...makes perfect business sense!

So what could someone expect to see based on current numbers? 24-30 months? Shorter?

2014 rates. Will be a little different now. We got more expensive and Eagle is getting cheaper with many of the lifers flowing.