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Old 02-26-2018 | 09:12 AM
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What about this part... “Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group, a reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning.”... about the only part that’s concerning and says current CAs forced to become right seat qualled during next CQ (pending FAA approval until staffing reaches 12.5 per plane)
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
It's not voluntary. It's only voluntary for open time pick up. Reserve captains can be put in an FO trip.

"reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning."

Ah beat me to It
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by poorflyer
It's not voluntary. It's only voluntary for open time pick up. Reserve captains can be put in an FO trip.

"reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning."
Crap, I totally didn't see that. Yeah, that sucks. oh well...give and take.
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:27 AM
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Can someone post the new CA pays? Or is APC correct, currently yr1 CA $69...
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:32 AM
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I think there were a lot of good things that came out of this negotiation. The union themselves said they weren't too thrilled about the right seat captain process. Also, it still has to be FAA approved. I wonder how long that will take. In addition, once we have 725 pilots on the seniority list excluding management pilots and military leave pilots, it sounds like it'll go away (at least for those of us that don't want it, and I'm one).

I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!

I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FlytheSky
I think there were a lot of good things that came out of this negotiation. The union themselves said they weren't too thrilled about the right seat captain process. Also, it still has to be FAA approved. I wonder how long that will take. In addition, once we have 725 pilots on the seniority list excluding management pilots and military leave pilots, it sounds like it'll go away (at least for those of us that don't want it, and I'm one).

I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!

I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
I feel like airport ready has been a crutch that they've been scared to do away with. I can count on two hands the number of times I've gotten LESS than a two hour call out on ready reserve.
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:37 AM
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“Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group."

I haven't laughed that hard at a union email in a long time. It'll be a while, boys and girls before it gets implemented!
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Poser765
I feel like airport ready has been a crutch that they've been scared to do away with. I can count on two hands the number of times I've gotten LESS than a two hour call out on ready reserve.
Every time I got used on airport ready, it was less than a 2 hour call out. Usually "OMG! Get to the plane ASAP!" Sometimes "Hey, you'll be working this flight in an hour and a half." Granted, the number of times I've sat ready reserve can probably be counted on my hands and toes, so my sample size might not be the best. I'm still hoping to see it go away though.

Does it make me a terrible person if I hope that FA ready reserve is still a thing though? It's incredibly useful to borrow one of them to begin boarding if one of my FAs is running late. Saved my/their/the company's bacon a couple times.
Old 02-26-2018 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FlytheSky
Every time I got used on airport ready, it was less than a 2 hour call out. Usually "OMG! Get to the plane ASAP!" Sometimes "Hey, you'll be working this flight in an hour and a half." Granted, the number of times I've sat ready reserve can probably be counted on my hands and toes, so my sample size might not be the best. I'm still hoping to see it go away though.

Does it make me a terrible person if I hope that FA ready reserve is still a thing though? It's incredibly useful to borrow one of them to begin boarding if one of my FAs is running late. Saved my/their/the company's bacon a couple times.
hmm maybe I'm an exception.more often than not I've been given assignments that could easily be given to a rap.

FAs? Meh. I know it sucks for them too, but if someone is going to no show more than likely it's one of them.
Old 02-26-2018 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Crimson
What about this part... “Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group, a reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning.”... about the only part that’s concerning and says current CAs forced to become right seat qualled during next CQ (pending FAA approval until staffing reaches 12.5 per plane)
These are two hurdles that they need to clear before they can start right seating CA's. I have little to no faith that we will ever have a properly functioning reserve list and I would encourage CA's to refuse any right seat assignments until then. Also I imagine it will take a little while to get the FAA's approval on the training program.
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