Compass Updates - Saga Continues
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What about this part... “Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group, a reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning.”... about the only part that’s concerning and says current CAs forced to become right seat qualled during next CQ (pending FAA approval until staffing reaches 12.5 per plane)
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Crap, I totally didn't see that. Yeah, that sucks. oh well...give and take.
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Can someone post the new CA pays? Or is APC correct, currently yr1 CA $69...
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I think there were a lot of good things that came out of this negotiation. The union themselves said they weren't too thrilled about the right seat captain process. Also, it still has to be FAA approved. I wonder how long that will take. In addition, once we have 725 pilots on the seniority list excluding management pilots and military leave pilots, it sounds like it'll go away (at least for those of us that don't want it, and I'm one).
I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!
I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!

I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
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I think there were a lot of good things that came out of this negotiation. The union themselves said they weren't too thrilled about the right seat captain process. Also, it still has to be FAA approved. I wonder how long that will take. In addition, once we have 725 pilots on the seniority list excluding management pilots and military leave pilots, it sounds like it'll go away (at least for those of us that don't want it, and I'm one).
I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!
I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
I do appreciate the "draw down" on ready reserve. I think the last couple months where we've had pretty much no one available to even sit airport ready has proven that it wouldn't be the end of the world to get rid of it. It'll certainly make the crew rooms more empty for me to use on those 4 hour sits!

I also think that this email shows that hopefully the union and management can work together. I know that in my conversations with the union, they've talked about the hostile relationship they've had as of late rather than being able to work with management when they both have common goals (such as properly staffing the airline and ensuring that Compass stays in business). Hopefully (as the union claims) we have "turned to a new chapter" and are able to better resolve some grievances. I'm personally holding my breath and will say that the proof will be in the pudding with how the remaining grievances are resolved.
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“Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group."
I haven't laughed that hard at a union email in a long time. It'll be a while, boys and girls before it gets implemented!
I haven't laughed that hard at a union email in a long time. It'll be a while, boys and girls before it gets implemented!
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Does it make me a terrible person if I hope that FA ready reserve is still a thing though? It's incredibly useful to borrow one of them to begin boarding if one of my FAs is running late. Saved my/their/the company's bacon a couple times.
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Every time I got used on airport ready, it was less than a 2 hour call out. Usually "OMG! Get to the plane ASAP!" Sometimes "Hey, you'll be working this flight in an hour and a half." Granted, the number of times I've sat ready reserve can probably be counted on my hands and toes, so my sample size might not be the best. I'm still hoping to see it go away though.
Does it make me a terrible person if I hope that FA ready reserve is still a thing though? It's incredibly useful to borrow one of them to begin boarding if one of my FAs is running late. Saved my/their/the company's bacon a couple times.
Does it make me a terrible person if I hope that FA ready reserve is still a thing though? It's incredibly useful to borrow one of them to begin boarding if one of my FAs is running late. Saved my/their/the company's bacon a couple times.
FAs? Meh. I know it sucks for them too, but if someone is going to no show more than likely it's one of them.
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What about this part... “Once the reserve availability list functions properly as confirmed by the IOCC Working Group, a reserve captain may be assigned to fly as a first officer when no first officers are available, before junior assigning.”... about the only part that’s concerning and says current CAs forced to become right seat qualled during next CQ (pending FAA approval until staffing reaches 12.5 per plane)
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