BobbyLeeSwagger

A 2 year contract extension was a spineless move, smh means "shaking my head," right?

SMH

poorflyer

I think some see it like ALPA Jr, so some don't care. It doesn't help that someone you vote for will most likely leave in a year or so, and with him/her are all the values you voted for so what's the point.

Not speaking for everyone just my pessimistic view.

BobbyLeeSwagger

The ball is kinda in our court collectively amongst regionals. The mainline cartels 'as it were' who set the 'hour standards' for us to attain to as we fly 300-400 of their pax a day in their regional planes 'getting our experience for them' continue to exploit us with this whole ponzie/pyramid scheme that is the CPA industry. I couldn't afford $17 an hr in 2008 and didn't come in till later, and now the tables have finally turned, so excuse my French when I say this, but SHNYKIES, we shouldn't be extending contracts from 2013 SMH SMH!!! We finally have some leverage, we just dont realize our own value. Our contracts should make us so expensive that it undermines the point of CPA.

The hard part is, in order to take back the industry we have to give up our jobs, but we always fear a loss of flying.

Ok maybe it's more like 200 to 300 of their pax, but whatever. You get the point. It's the same as the 757 crew doing lax to jfk. This topic makes me get a little hyphy, like keak da sneak...

https://youtu.be/d1kIUA0UH9o

poorflyer

I agree extending our contract in this environment was a strange tactic at the very least, especially since we gave up other things as well and gained just a tiny bit. I feel our problem as a small regional union is that we are unable to organize. Compass mgmt is in a great position because our HQ isn't a base anymore. So our average pilot is thousands of miles away from our union heads. Also since MSP is no longer a base we are going to slowly lose all the people who actually want to volunteer a lot of their time to commute on their time off to building C, this should be something we plan for. I wouldn't be surprised if we have to start begging people to run for MEC chairs. Not a good place to be when the company asks for concessions to renew flying contracts.

Serenity

Keep in mind that there was no information about the candidates before voting for the previous round of union reps. It could easily have been that most of the 80% who didn't vote also didn't know enough to make an informed decision. At least this last round had statements from each candidate. If you don't know why you're voting I prefer that you don't vote at all.

Fr8Thrust

Instead they go ahead and extend our CBA. May we never forget the names of those who “negotiated” that one.

In other news, anyone notice we cancelled a PHX turn today and they chartered OO to fly relief?

poorflyer

Compass bought Skywest confirmed.

VIRotate

And we make phone of OO for their 1% but at least they got the chance to vote on that sh*tty contract...I just woke up to an email with everyone congratulating themselves on such a great extension...with zero input from the pilot group.

Fr8Thrust

It wasn’t put to a vote, because we, unlike OO, would never agree to such terms.

BobbyLeeSwagger

That's exactly right, and I'm in the mood for voting.... ever since I botched up my vote in the 2016 general election by turning in a filled out sample ballot only to find out when it was too late that it wasnt real.