Hey management
To: management,
We need some good news! We have pilots leaving to airlines they weren't previously interested in working for. Sun Country. Allegiant. Spirit. Atlas. Release something if you got it. Or forever hold your peace. |
Originally Posted by SigHansen
(Post 2354146)
To: management,
We need some good news! We have pilots leaving to airlines they weren't previously interested in working for. Sun Country. Allegiant. Spirit. Atlas. Release something if you got it. Or forever hold your peace. My bet is that they don't want to admit people are jumping for another regional. |
Could be correct. Or corporate. Or they're like me and said F this industry and straight up quit.
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Originally Posted by Work2much
(Post 2353645)
Why not? It would benefit both airlines. Hawaiian doesn't hire a bunch so it wouldn't be a burden on us. Yet it would be guaranteed movement off the top (expensive captains) and a recruiting tool for hiring. It's a win win. Wait for it....
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[emoji23] that was great.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by SigHansen
(Post 2354212)
Could be correct. Or corporate. Or they're like me and said F this industry and straight up quit.
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Off topic, but I've got a reserve question, asking for a friend... ;) since the contract isn't exactly ironclad.
If a fella is on short call, let's say RAP1 for giggles (4am-6pm) with additional days of reserve to follow... does he consider himself 'off' at 4pm considering the two hour call out? Ex.- can CS call the pilot at 5:59pm for a turn (assuming it concludes within FAR/contractual obligations) ? |
Originally Posted by Stall
(Post 2354349)
Off topic, but I've got a reserve question, asking for a friend... ;) since the contract isn't exactly ironclad.
If a fella is on short call, let's say RAP1 for giggles (4am-6pm) with additional days of reserve to follow... does he consider himself 'off' at 4pm considering the two hour call out? Ex.- can CS call the pilot at 5:59pm for a turn (assuming it concludes within FAR/contractual obligations) ? |
Originally Posted by Quest
(Post 2354355)
They can call you until 5:59:59, as long as the assignment they give you is legal.
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Originally Posted by Stall
(Post 2354349)
Off topic, but I've got a reserve question, asking for a friend... ;) since the contract isn't exactly ironclad.
If a fella is on short call, let's say RAP1 for giggles (4am-6pm) with additional days of reserve to follow... does he consider himself 'off' at 4pm considering the two hour call out? Ex.- can CS call the pilot at 5:59pm for a turn (assuming it concludes within FAR/contractual obligations) ? Q62) If a flightcrew member assigned to a RAP is assigned to an Un-Augmented FDP during the RAP are there any further Limitations? A62) Yes, 117.21(c)(3) provides, that the FDP assigned must be scheduled to end at the earlier of: (1) The start time of the RAP plus 16 hours (2) Using the start time of the RAP, apply Table B limit plus 4 hours. (3) Using the start time of the FDP assigned, apply the Table B limit. The FAA has provided the following examples: For the first example, an acclimated flightcrew member begins a RAP at 0600. That flightcrew member is then assigned to an unaugmented FDP that begins at 1200 and consists of two flight segments. According to Table B, the FDP limit for a two-segment FDP that begins at 1200 is 13 hours. The applicable 13-hour FDP limit plus 4 hours equals 17 hours. Because this is greater than 16 hours, under § 117.21(c)(3), the pertinent RAP + FDP limit for this unaugmented operation is 16 hours. Given that the flightcrew member in this example began his RAP at 0600, he will have 6 hours of RAP time by the time his FDP will start at 1200. As a result, to stay within the 16-hour RAP + FDP limit, this flightcrew member’s FDP cannot exceed 10 hours without an extension, as his RAP will use up 6 hours of the 16-hour RAP + FDP limit. For the second example, an acclimated flightcrew member begins a RAP at 1100. That flightcrew member is then assigned to an unaugmented FDP consisting of five flight segments that begin at 1500. According to Table B, the FDP limit for a five-segment FDP that begins at 1500 is 11.5 hours. The applicable 11.5-hour FDP limit plus 4 hours equals 15.5 hours. Because this is smaller than 16 hours, under § 117.21(c)(3), the pertinent FDP + RAP limit for this unaugmented operation is 15.5 hours. Since the flightcrew member in this example began his RAP at 1100, he will have 4 hours of RAP time by the time his FDP will start at 1500. Consequently, this flightcrew member can take the full 11.5-hour FDP as the 11.5-hour FDP plus the 4 hours of RAP will not exceed the 15.5-hour RAP + FDP limit. ^^ so in your example, you're legal til 8PM I believe but would have to be totally off duty by then... so yeah if they call you at 5:59pm, they could have you show up at 7:59pm and you'd time out 1 minute later.... So in practice though you're still contactable til 6pm, their options for using you start to get pretty limited on a 2hr call. |
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