This Endeavor TA could be the death blow to companies that cant attract right now. Or wont match it... GoJet/Horizon/CommutAir.. ect. What will TSH do??

 

[QUOTE=sMFer;2443799]I fully expect numbers to drop extensively once Endeavor passes their TA.


Well I do expect number to drop but remember we are predominantly out west they are more east. I think we will still get people that want to remain out west since we have the best offer for people who want to remain out here. I think that’s the main thing that’ll help us for now but we have to see how this plays out and how the company reacts.

 

[QUOTE=afterv1;2443864]I agree with this. I fully expect to see our recruiting numbers drop, but not that much.

Everyone preaches about going to a regional where you can live in base or commute to easily. Too, that seems to be most new people's priority. If that's true,we don't really compete with endeavor..we operate in markets three timezones away. Most of the freshman and sophomore FOs I fly with live in CA or the surrounding area.

We'll see, though. I could be very wrong...after all I have an aviation degree that I just barely earned.

 

Welp. Certainly not feeling the "FO shortage" on reserve. Haven't been called to fly once in 2+ weeks, and there's almost nothing in open time. Even then all my add requests are getting rejected with no explanation. Maybe they figure they can save money by giving it to reserve guys instead of letting us grab it on our days off.

Pulling my hair out trying to get some scraps in my logbook here.




to add insult to injury my buddy at Peidmont went from IOE to a line with most of the flights at triple premium pay. Not counting his bonus, dude flew 96 hours and credited 182 hours of pay his first month flying.

 

The way this company uses it's reserves... or doesn't use guys on reserves boggles my mind.

 

I have an offer with Envoy but I'm considering Compass for western bases. I need some input though.

What I basically understand:
1) Internet forums are internet forums.(I've been reading Compass and Envoy's for a while now)
2) No one has a crystal ball for the airline industry.
3) The next few years may be more unpredictable than usual

What I would like your thoughts on:
1) If Compass does continue to lose flying and/or aircraft how much can be lost and the company stay a float?
2) How will lost flying affect the FO reserve problem. (the guys on the three AA wholly owned are flying a lot on reserve and getting off reserve pretty quick. 4-6 months for the longest base/airframe 1 month for the shortest.)
3) How stable is the flying in PHX? That is where I would like to be based (I'll be living in SLC) and supposedly Envoy is going to reopen PHX or LAX next year. It sounds like the AA flying and the aircraft for that are going to come from Compass. BUT if they don't and Compass stays strong in PHX I'd be smart to sign up with Compass. At least they have an actual base instead of a hopeful one. IF, IF, IF... I know.
4) If Compass matches the $50 FO pay will the bonus go away.
5) I would like to eventually be with Delta. If they are metering their Compass hires the way AA meters their Envoy hires that might be a negative. (Envoy's is a known quantity. Right now flow is 6-8 years, but nothing says you can't get 'hired around the flow'.

All speculative, I know. Lay it on me anyway.
Thanks

 

Anyone know what the new fo pay scale looks like officially?

 

Anyone interview the last month? New gouges say the interview has changed?

 

Interviewed about a week and a half ago at the Crowne Plaza LAX.....strictly HR questions tell me about a time and what would you do questions.

 

Was just some get to know you questions, HR stuff, then situation based to see how you'd react.