baseball

Not alltot of empical data on the front end (where it started) to fully validate what you seek. As this virus "scales" we learn more. As it scales into western cultures with more modern medical capabilities and more robust health care systems we learn more. Modeling is really used to show "worst case". The models are simply tools used to forecast not unlike an upper level weather prog chart. To me it reminds me of forecasting "hurricane models." Are those models correct? nearly correct? They are just forecasting tools. The non-medical people are placing too much emphasis in the models.

The goal posts will move based on three factors: known science, forecasted/estimated science (which is an art form), will of the people.

The citizens are getting restless and stir crazy. This translates to the will of the people. Everyone staying at home doesn't improve our immune response. So, while it may be really bad to get people infected, it may be better for their immune systems to be exposed to it. The sooner we all get exposed, the smarter our immune systems become and the sooner man-kind can get back to work, school, and play.

While it would be great to have a vaccine to help our immune system we don't have one yet. maybe we never get one? I don't know, but the show must go on so to speak.

baseball

I don't think China's numbers are ever going to be accurate, so I don't look at them.

The stillest

um. Right.. so my question about the age of the article is valid.

you seem to be arguing against the premise of article now - which is fine, but it might be better to contact the author for that

China is a sociopathic enterprise run by sociopaths ...it doesn’t matter when you write about it

sigler

I see what you’re saying, and I agree with you. However we need to have accurate information from China so we know what we’re dealing with with this virus, at least in the early stages. And as much as it seems this has been going on forever, we’re still in the early stages. It seems that China (except for maybe Wuhan) hasn’t been hit nearly as bad as Europe and the US, and we desperately need to know why. Maybe there’s something else going on here that’s not on the up and up.

Since we can’t trust the information coming from China, it’s time the west starts gathering information on our own. I hope that’s already happening behind the scenes.

The stillest

likely to not get anything accurate from China...

Everyone else seems to be trying to get as many test kits available as possible, both for antibodies as well as infection

majorpilot

Right? That just says it all, no reasoned discourse to be had there...

majorpilot

Dude, no one is attacking YOU...what you wrote is enough of an admission, no one needs to do anything but acknowledge it. That’s what you’re seeing...

You keep doing you, and we won’t try to reason with you. Fair enough?

majorpilot

See earlier comment about no reasoned discourse to be had here...move along.

Stan446

Covid 19 isn't that deadly. And thanks to the media, our economy is trashed and millions are out of work. The final numbers will be out next spring or maybe late fall and we are all going to see how much this was sensationalized. ****

majorpilot

Congratulations, glad you’re through it! Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s important if fear is to be overcome that people begin to know first-hand survivors, who can relate their own experience, which may help others.

I just read an account by a physician who tested positive who was offered and took the same drugs, but afterwards was upset with himself because he wasn’t aware of the potential side effects depending on one’s other conditions and medications, which have caused fatalities. But it had no adverse affect for him and it’s great it worked out for you.

I hope the experts are able to collect all of this data and keep sharing it so we can do everything possible to bring medical mitigation and prevention into play as soon as possible. I wonder how we can distinguish those of us who’ve recovered from those of us who are still vulnerable, no one seems to have a good plan for that yet. It would reassure people (assuming they can even lock down whether someone recovered is truly immune, which we sure hope is the case)!

Thank you also for your positive attitude. It’s important to remember we humans are all on the same page and in this together, it would be great if everyone remembered that.