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Old 04-15-2020 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Serious question, do you know anyone working in the health care profession treating these patients? I mean in the room with infected patients. I do, they're scared. And have never seen anything like this. First hand knowledge from a family member, a nurse. Sad thing, folks are dying in isolation, no family allowed. Your stats are like reading batting averages.
Of course they're scared, who wouldn't be?

I got three sisters who are nurses in hospitals working on the "front lines" they see the worst cases because you have to be VERY sick to be admitted in effort to save the hospitals from not getting overrun. The hospital census here in NJ isn't too bad at this time, vents utilization at around 58%

It's very sad that patients have to be isolated that way but the reasons are obvious. My sisters and other nurses I speak with all say it's a double edge sword. The floor staff normally spends a LOT of time on family members. Explaining things, fielding demands etc.. That time now goes into patient care.

All you hear is the gloom. I'm not saying the virus can't be horrible for some people but over 3,100 virus patients have been released from NJ hospitals in the last 5 days. That's a good thing. In an effort to actually get the thread back on track here: How were most of them treated? Hydroxychloroquine + zinc +02 (preferably without a vent as that causes it's own problems, but, if you need it, you need it)

One of my sisters who worked all week in an ER is a presumed positive as of today, just fever and chills at this point, (tested this AM, no result yet). She's at home. My guess is she is already on Hydroxychloroquine, I haven't asked yet.

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Old 04-15-2020 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
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Just curious,

Are you saying that if you or a loved one contracted COVID-19 and was in ICU, that you would refuse hydroxychloroquine and Z pac ?

Edit....for someone who is “not saying that” it sure comes across that that is what you are saying. Very Debbie Downerish. I’m not touting false hope but most people think this is a positive direction and you seem to want to argue that it’s not.
If a doctor prescribed it I'd be ok. If the mayor, governor, or president prescribed it, I'd ask the doctor.
Old 04-15-2020 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
If a doctor prescribed it I'd be ok. If the mayor, governor, or president prescribed it, I'd ask the doctor.
Long ago I decided not to take medical advice, relationship advice, and especially my moral guidance from any politician and/or celebrity. Both of those jobs demand a certain level of narcissism that makes most of them incapable of proffering unbiased advice.
Old 04-15-2020 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
If a doctor prescribed it I'd be ok. If the mayor, governor, or president prescribed it, I'd ask the doctor.
Hmmm, if my doctor wouldn't prescribe it, I would have a new doctor ASAP.
Old 04-16-2020 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
40,000 people in a year? FTB, how many people have we lost in the last 30 days -- WITH mitigation? LIke 25,000+?

We are at the point where we are losing almost 2,000 people a day and rising -- WITH mitigation.


If 2,000 people a day (and increasing) were dying in car accidents, I'm pretty sure they would lower the speed limit. No?
We loose an average of 30,000 people a year WITH mitigation. 2 years ago it was 60,000. Hundreds of thousands hospitalized. Tens of millions infected. All WITH mitigation. But we don’t have daily tickers or any breaking news. I’m not denying this virus but doesn’t it seem odd we don’t freak out when over 60,000 people die with vaccinations and therapeutic drugs?
Old 04-16-2020 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
We loose an average of 30,000 people a year WITH mitigation. 2 years ago it was 60,000. Hundreds of thousands hospitalized. Tens of millions infected. All WITH mitigation. But we don’t have daily tickers or any breaking news. I’m not denying this virus but doesn’t it seem odd we don’t freak out when over 60,000 people die with vaccinations and therapeutic drugs?
Influenza and Pneumonia is in the MIDDLE of the graph at 153/day.

COVID numbers are with lockdown mitigations, obviously.
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Old 04-16-2020 | 04:33 AM
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Most of the people who have thus far died from COVID were infected before social distancing began en masse across much of the country a month ago.

Deaths are trailing indicators of infection...
Old 04-16-2020 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Most of the people who have thus far died from COVID were infected before social distancing began en masse across much of the country a month ago.

Deaths are trailing indicators of infection...
I disagree. There are many instances of people dying within 3 weeks of infection.

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Old 04-16-2020 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I disagree. There are many instances of people dying within 2 weeks of infection.
Two weeks from exposure to death?

Citation, including demographic information, needed...
Old 04-16-2020 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Two weeks from exposure to death?

Citation, including demographic information, needed...
I'll edit it. Within 3 weeks.

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