It's just the flu!
04-26-2020 | 10:33 AM
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If any of the items you listed killed people as fast as COVID, absolutely we'd be doing something about it. 50,000 dead in 5 weeks? That ******* would be illegal yesterday.
04-26-2020 | 10:36 AM
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So it's *rate* of death that we are sheltering for? What rate of death is the trigger point? It doesn't have to be to the exact digit, but ball park us.
04-26-2020 | 10:37 AM
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To me it seems very self-absorbed to knowingly live an unhealthy lifestyle and then demand society destroy itself to avoid the consequences of previous decisions.
I think there is a middle way that can be followed, locking up healthy people and children isn’t part of that.
04-26-2020 | 10:41 AM
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https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...ping-illnesses
04-26-2020 | 10:50 AM
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If all 10% of inmates start dying every week. They think it might be food poisoning, and they die 1 week after they ate. So they stop serving food varieties and gave insanely stupid strict rules about food. Nobody likes the tase of what they eat now, some even starve and die from malnutrition.
Then come to find out, actually those stats were including those inmate on death row, who also ate that food the day they died but when studies were done, they attributed the death on those on death row as food poisoning.
It turns out it was more like .1% of non death row inmates died.
Should they keep with the stupid strict food guidelines? Even though it seems to be harming way more than it’s helping?
We need to accept death of few is worth it for a future of all. Our past fallen heroes thought so.
04-26-2020 | 10:56 AM
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Apparently 48 dead and 2300 sick is enough to force national action. Thanks for playing.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...ping-illnesses
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/...ping-illnesses
04-26-2020 | 10:59 AM
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04-26-2020 | 11:25 AM
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- COVID is killing a lot of people right now. A depression has the potential to kill people in the future.
- COVID, left unmitigated, could kill upwards of 200,000 people in the next 12 months. A depression will not have that sort of lethality
- The current risk for a "Great Depression" like collapse is low. Economists are predicting a -3.9% GDP contraction for 2020.
To put it another way... your house is on fire. The firefighters have arrived and they're putting out your blazing house. But all you're worried about is water damage.
04-26-2020 | 11:51 AM
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Oh believe me, I have.
What I wonder is what the pro lock down people are asking their reps and what their calculus is, if there is a calcuclus. Furthermore if somone is going to continue pressing the case for lockdowns/quarantine it would behoove us to quantify what our trigger points are. Otherwise it's just yelling about the feelz.
What I wonder is what the pro lock down people are asking their reps and what their calculus is, if there is a calcuclus. Furthermore if somone is going to continue pressing the case for lockdowns/quarantine it would behoove us to quantify what our trigger points are. Otherwise it's just yelling about the feelz.
04-26-2020 | 12:06 PM
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Oh believe me, I have.
What I wonder is what the pro lock down people are asking their reps and what their calculus is, if there is a calcuclus. Furthermore if somone is going to continue pressing the case for lockdowns/quarantine it would behoove us to quantify what our trigger points are. Otherwise it's just yelling about the feelz.
What I wonder is what the pro lock down people are asking their reps and what their calculus is, if there is a calcuclus. Furthermore if somone is going to continue pressing the case for lockdowns/quarantine it would behoove us to quantify what our trigger points are. Otherwise it's just yelling about the feelz.
I have feelz that it won't satisfy you though.
This should have been our generation's moonshot. America used to be able to do amazing things, impossible things. But we're lost and divided, a shadow of our former selves. Here's how it should have gone down.
A national call to action. Part of preventing a second wave is containment of hotspots and flare ups. So when clusters breakout we can get to the source and isolate quickly. That means contact tracing. We can do that utilizing 2 ways: technology and manpower. Apple and Google are codeveloping an app that could track if you came within the vicinity of someone who later tested positive. Combine that with boots on the ground tracers and we might just prevent a second wave. We could have hired 100,000 contact tracers and put them in every town to insure this doesn't go nationwide again.
Our pharmaceutical infrastructure is decimated. When and if a vaccine will be developed, we'll need hundreds of millions of doses. And we'll have to import them from other countries. I doubt we'll be a priority. We should be building massive testing and pharma labs today.
Set up screenings at airports and other public places. Yes, it may not be completely effective, but it will give the public confidence. Right now, everyone is panicked out of their minds. People need to see that we're taking steps to insure their safety, or they're not going to do anything. We need people to feel confident to fly.
These steps would be massive undertakings. Hard work. But seeing this sort of collaborative effort in working towards a common goal would have been unifying.
I try to think what FDR would have done in this scenario. We could use someone like him right now.
A national call to action. Part of preventing a second wave is containment of hotspots and flare ups. So when clusters breakout we can get to the source and isolate quickly. That means contact tracing. We can do that utilizing 2 ways: technology and manpower. Apple and Google are codeveloping an app that could track if you came within the vicinity of someone who later tested positive. Combine that with boots on the ground tracers and we might just prevent a second wave. We could have hired 100,000 contact tracers and put them in every town to insure this doesn't go nationwide again.
Our pharmaceutical infrastructure is decimated. When and if a vaccine will be developed, we'll need hundreds of millions of doses. And we'll have to import them from other countries. I doubt we'll be a priority. We should be building massive testing and pharma labs today.
Set up screenings at airports and other public places. Yes, it may not be completely effective, but it will give the public confidence. Right now, everyone is panicked out of their minds. People need to see that we're taking steps to insure their safety, or they're not going to do anything. We need people to feel confident to fly.
These steps would be massive undertakings. Hard work. But seeing this sort of collaborative effort in working towards a common goal would have been unifying.
I try to think what FDR would have done in this scenario. We could use someone like him right now.
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